XPost: alt.talk.royalty, alt.politics.british, alt.society.monarchy
From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
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Louis Epstein wrote:
>A revision for the 40th birthday of the Duke of Cambridge,
>which also marks two months after the Queen turned 96.
>
>The Queen's current age would be reached by the
>Prince of Wales in January 2045,
>the Duke of Cambridge in August 2078,
>and by Prince George in September 2109.
>
>When the Prince of Wales turned 56,the Queen's reign
>was still closer to its middle than to its eventual end.
>
>When George V turned 40,Edward VII's reign was only
>months from reaching its midpoint,when Edward VIII turned
>40 George V's reign was less than 2 years from ending,
>when George VI turned 40 Edward VIII's reign was just
>under a year,and George V's just over a month,from ending.
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-
>
>Consider,if you would,the United Kingdom and Empire
>as they were on September 28th 1881.
>
>Queen Victoria,under 5 months past 62,was on the throne;
>she was over five years from her Golden Jubilee,her Diamond Jubilee
>would be ten years after that.The future Edward VII was 6 weeks
>short of 40 (the current Prince of Wales is under 5 months from 74),
>the future George V was under 4 months past 16(the Duke of Cambridge
>is now 40--George V became Heir Apparent at 35 when all
>his children were younger than Princess Charlotte is now),not yet
>Duke of York,and not yet heir apparent to his father;nor was his elder
>brother (who had over a decade to live) yet 18.
>The future Archbishop of Canterbury who would crown King Edward was
>Bishop of Exeter.The oldest British royal was George III's daughter-in-law
>the Duchess of Cambridge (Augusta of Hesse-Cassel),born 1797 and with
>over seven and a half years to live.
>
>The Church of England dioceses of Birmingham,Blackburn,Bristol,
>Coventry,Chelmsford,Derby,Guildford,Leicester,Newcastle,Portsmouth,
>St. Edmundsbury and Ipswich,Sheffield,and Southwark did not yet
>exist...nor did those of Bradford and Wakefield,now abolished,
>or that of Southwell,from which Derby would one day be severed.That of
>Liverpool was under a year and a half old.
>
>Lloyd George,Macdonald,and Baldwin were teenagers,
>Chamberlain was twelve and Churchill was six years old,
>and no later Prime Minister(including Attlee)
>had yet been born (nor had any person in the world alive after 1999).
>Keir Hardie,who years later would found the original Scottish
>Labour Party,then the Independent Labour Party,and then the Labour
>Party proper,was aged twenty-five and would not be an MP for over
>a decade.
>
>William Gladstone (born 1809) was the only living person who had been
>Prime Minister (years younger than his predecessors).His government
>had not yet sought passage of the Representation of the People Act 1884
>(which would for the first time enable most men to vote),which would
>be followed by the Redistribution of Seats Act 1885 (which would establish
>the norm of single-member constituencies) which would first come into
>effect with the following election.(The secret ballot had been law
>for nine years).
>Women would not vote in a General Election for over thirty-seven years.
>Christopher Rice Mansel Talbot(born 1803),Father of the House of Commons,
>had been a member since 1830...before any of the Reform Bills.(Charles
>James Mahon,born 1800,had been a member discontinuously since then).
>
>Lord Coleridge (born 1820) was Lord Chief Justice,and had been
>the last Chief Justice of the Common Pleas (a position abolished
>by the Judicature Act of 1873).The 1st Lord Esher(born 1815 or 1817,
>sources disagree) had yet to become Master of the Rolls.The Royal
>Courts of Justice building was under construction and today's Old
>Bailey would not open for decades.
>
>Many of the Colonies had yet to be colonized,Hong Kong was over a
>decade from adding the New Territories.
>
>Battleships that would be scrapped as obsolete in the reign of Edward VII
>had yet to be laid down,nor had either HMS Victoria,which would sink in
>an 1893 collision,or the ironclad HMS Camperdown,which would sink it.
>Ships built with sailing rigs were still in the active fleet,
>some with wooden hulls were still performing reserve and training functions,
>and it was years before HMS Temeraire would make port under sail alone
>for the final time.
>
>The Admirals of the Fleet included Sir George Sartorius(born
>1790,a commander in 1812 and post-captain in 1814),and
>Sir Provo Wallis (born 1791,a lieutenant 1808,and commander 1813);
>Sartorius had been a midshipman on HMS Tonnant at Trafalgar in 1805
>nearly 9 years before Francis Scott Key's visit to that ship led to
>"The Star-Spangled Banner" being written,witnessed the surrender of
>Napoleon,commanded a fleet in the Portugese Civil War of the 1830s,
>and risen through the admiral ranks starting in 1849;Wallis had
>taken temporary command of HMS Shannon when it captured USS
>Chesapeake in 1813.
>The 1st Baron Strathnairn(born 1801) was a Field Marshal,
>while Sir Richard Dacres(born 1799),the 3rd Earl of Lucan
>(born 1800,a lieutenant colonel 1826),who had ordered the
>Charge of the Light Brigade,and three men born in 1804
>had yet to receive promotion to that rank.
>
>The eldest Dukes included the 6th of Northumberland(b. 1810,
>great-great-great-grandfather of the 11th and the current 12th Duke)
>the 2nd of Wellington(b. 1807,elder brother of the great-great-grandfather
>of the present 9th Duke born 1945,an MP 1829 and army major 1830),
>the 7th of Devonshire(b. 1808,great-great-great-grandfather of the
>present 12th duke born 1944,he had first become an MP in 1829 and
>a peer in 1834),the 5th of Buccleuch/7th of Queensberry(b. 1806,
>succeeded in 1819,a Knight of the Garter since 1835,great-great-great-
>grandfather of the present 12th Duke),the 12th of Somerset(b. 1804,
>second cousin of the great-great-great-grandfather of the current 19th Duke),
>and the 4th (and last) of Cleveland (born 1803).
>The 1st Duke of Abercorn,so created in 1868,had succeeded to the
>Marquessate thereof in 1818 and been a Knight of the Garter since 1844.
>The 3rd Marquess of Donegall (born 1797) was alive and would be
>succeeded by a younger brother born in 1799(the present peer is the
>great-great-great-grandson of their first cousin).
>The 7th Earl of Shaftesbury(born 1801,an MP from 1826,great-
>great-great-grandfather of the present peer and his predecessor),the
>3rd Earl Grey (born 1802,also an MP from 1826,elder brother of the
>great-great-grandfather of the octogenarian present peer and of his
>predecessor),and the 2nd Earl of Harrowby(born 1798,an MP from 1819,
>a Lord of the Admiralty in 1827,great-great-great-grandfather of the
>septuagenarian present Earl) were among the Knights of the Garter.
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