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   First of all, because of false representations by the media, it is   
   necessary that we first clarify what Holocaust Revisionism does not   
   maintain:   
      
   it does not deny that Jews were persecuted under the Third Reich;   
   it does not deny that Jews were deprived of civil rights;   
   it does not deny that Jews were deported;   
   it does not deny the existence of Jewish ghettos;   
   it does not deny the existence of concentration camps;   
   it does not deny the existence of crematoriums in concentration camps;   
   it does not deny that Jews died for a great number of reasons;   
   it does not deny that other minorities were also persecuted such as   
   gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, and political dissenters;   
   and finally, it does not deny that all the above mentioned things were   
   unjust.   
      
      
   None of these crimes of the National Socialist regime are doubted by   
   Holocaust revisionists. In the view of the Revisionists, however, all   
   these injustices have nothing to do with the Holocaust, which is   
   defined as planned and organized mass murder, carried out specifically   
   in homicidal gas chambers (see Question 4).   
      
   Holocaust revisionists believe the following to be correct:   
      
   There was no National Socialist order for the physical extermination   
   of Jews (cf. R. Widmann);   
      
   Likewise, there was no National-Socialist plan for physical   
   extermination of Jews;   
      
   There was no German organization and no budget for carrying out the   
   alleged extermination plan. Consider the statement by the   
   world-renowned Holocaust researcher R. Hilberg:   
      
   »But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in   
   advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint   
   and there was no budget for destructive measures [of the Juden]. They   
   [the measures] were taken step by step. Thus came about not so much a   
   plan being carried out but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus   
   mind-reading by a far-flung [German] bureaucracy.«);   
      
   In detailed investigations of former German concentration camps,   
   expert researchers have established: The internment camps had no   
   homicidal gas chambers or sophisticated methods for mass murder (see   
   the studies about Auschwitz (1) (2) (3) (4), (see also a YouTube   
   video), Majdanek, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, Stutthof, Chelmno (to   
   come), diesel gas chambers in general - as video). Furthermore, the   
   reports of mass shootings were greatly exaggerated and taken out of   
   context (see H. Tiedemann und G. Rudolf/S. Schröder);   
      
   There were neither adequate industrial facilities nor sufficient fuel   
   to cremate such a huge number of corpses. In fact, the capacity of the   
   crematories was barely sufficient to cremate the bodies of those who   
   died from starvation and epidemics (see the investigations about the   
   Auschwitz crematories and pyres, and about pyres in Treblinka, as well   
   as the respective chapters of the individual studies of the camps   
   listed above).   
      
   There is no documentation for the existence of homicidal gas chambers   
   (for Auschwitz see here, for the other camps see the links above), and   
   no material traces of alleged mass murders (see sources given under   
   nos. 4 & 5, especially the chapters about excavations performed in   
   Belzec, in Sobibor, and ground-penetrating radar research in Treblinka   
   (also as YouTube video), as well as revealing air photo analyses (also   
   here)). All the "proofs" rely on eyewitness accounts only, whose   
   unreliability is widely acknowledged (1, 2 and 3 (chapter 4.2., p.   
   345: "A Thousand Reasons for False Testimonies").   
      
   Despite massive observation by spies and resistance groups in areas in   
   the near vicinity of the German concentration camps, all of Germany's   
   wartime enemies conducted themselves as if no exterminations of Jews   
   were taking place. The charges of genocide were not raised until after   
   Germany's defeat, when there was no German government to dispute them   
   (see A. Butz).   
      
   Statistical investigations of living Jews worldwide show clearly that   
   the losses of this ethnic group during the Second World War were   
   nowhere near six million. Although attempts were made to establish a   
   somewhat accurate figure (see for example the research by W.N.   
   Sanning), the truth is that we simply don't know, as a comparison of   
   revisionist and mainstream research has shown.   
      
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