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   Michael Ejercito to Colin Bignell   
   Re: London   
   24 Jul 23 08:38:53   
   
   XPost: can.politics, uk.legal, uk.d-i-y   
   XPost: uk.comp.sys.mac   
   From: MEjercit@HotMail.com   
      
   Colin Bignell wrote:   
   > On 24/07/2023 13:24, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:   
   >> On 23/07/2023 14:08, Colin Bignell wrote:   
   >>> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:   
   >>>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the   
   >>>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to   
   >>>> culture?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school   
   >>>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show   
   >>>> the correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't,   
   >>>> simply because it's an established fact that is criminality is   
   >>>> cultural.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high   
   >>> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture   
   >>> is only proven to affect the types of crime they commit. East   
   >>> Europeans and Chinese are the most likely to be involved in people   
   >>> trafficking. White males are by far the most likely to be involved in   
   >>> sexual grooming, but Asian males are more likely to do so as a group   
   >>> activity. The prevalence of black males being convicted of street   
   >>> crime is thought to be dues to racial bias in the police (blacks are   
   >>> more than three times as likely to be stopped and arrested than   
   >>> whites, although the conviction rate for whites is higher), more of   
   >>> them living in areas of poverty and under-achievement of black pupils   
   >>> in schools, compared to whites in the same schools.   
   >>   
   >> The majority of people who are 'poor and unemployed' do not resort to   
   >> crime, this is a myth perpetuated by sociologists. It is just that   
   >> certain cultures are more predisposed to crime.   
   >   
   > What cultures lead to the street gangs of 19th century London, or the   
   > Tongs of mid-20th century Glasgow?   
   >   
      
       The cultures that existed in those cities at the time, of course.   
      
      
     Michael   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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