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   From: hawker@btinternet.com   
      
   You are obviously a fan of Baron Arthur de Gobineau and his white   
   supremacist nonsense. You  are a king of old chestnut sellers.   
   "Custos Custodum"  wrote in message   
   news:3fgqj192ceohlf7jfpuvqec7fahcvd9dko@4ax.com...   
   > On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:54:09 +0000 (UTC), "hawker@btinternet.com"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>I hope you do not mind if I top post.   
   >   
   > Go right ahead! It identifies you as an idiot and will spare us the   
   > trouble of reading the rest of your posts in future.   
   >   
   >>Wright, the eminent Victorian   
   >>philologist, noted the total lack of German grammar in so called Middle   
   >>English,   
   >   
   > Still flogging this old chestnut, I see. Where, exactly, did he make   
   > this observation? Since he taught at Heidelberg for a time, it is   
   > inconceivable that he would be unaware of the very real relationship   
   > between English and German grammar. We only have to look at the verbs   
   > and how they are classified into 'strong' and 'weak' and how the   
   > process of ablaut (swim, swam, swum, sing, sang, sung, bring, brought,   
   > think, thought) is mirrored between the two to realise that they are   
   > connected.   
   >   
   >>as well as massive word borrowings from Scandinavian   
   >   
   > Old Norse was a Germanic language too.   
   >   
   >>and Celtic languages,   
   >   
   > A load of place names and at most a few hundred other words from all   
   > Celtic sources is hardly a massive borrowing.   
   >   
   >>and even on a smaller scale French. Grammatically English bears   
   >>to relation to either archaic or modern German, so how can English be   
   >>derived from Anglo-Saxon? No, English is a pidgin language derived from   
   >>several other languages. This accounts for the mixed English vocabulary   
   >>and   
   >>the general lack of grammar. The final coup-de-grace arose when in   
   >>Northern   
   >>English the definite article THE replaced the German  (masculine,   
   >>feminine,   
   >>and neuter definite articles (I forget the archaic German/Anglo-Saxon   
   >>definite articles, but in modern German they are die, der, das). So called   
   >>Old English was in fact Old German.   
   >   
   > Didn't you just say it bore no relationship to either archaic or   
   > modern German? At least try to be consistent with your nonsense.   
   >   
   >>All of this rubbish about 'Old English'   
   >>derives from Gobineau's book, The Inequalities of the Races..   
   >   
   > So where does all the rubbish you post derive from?   
   >   
      
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