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   From: peffers50@btinternet.com   
      
   "Hawker"  wrote in message   
   news:a5adnYGnkZ2QNO3ZRVnyvg@bt.com...   
   > Top posting is a matter of some dispute. Some readers appreciate it.   
   > English is not German. The archaic German that was spoken in England was a   
   > very advanced language which is unfortunately neglected by modern German   
   > speakers. Archaic German aka Anglo-Saxon, Old Saxon, Old Franconian, etc.,   
   > bears little resemblance to English. If you only studied the Anglo-Saxon   
   > language instead of writing nonsense then you would be very impressed by   
   > this form of early German, but Chaucer's English has little in  common   
   > with any form of German.   
   >  wrote in message   
   > news:na8%e.16755$iW5.15434@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...   
   >> In soc.culture.scottish hawker@btinternet.com    
   >> wrote:   
   >>> I hope you do not mind if I top post.   
   >>   
   >> It's annoying... why do it?   
   >>   
   >>> Wright, the eminent Victorian   
   >>> philologist, noted the total lack of German grammar in so called Middle   
   >>> English, as well as massive word borrowings from Scandinavian and Celtic   
   >>> languages, and even on a smaller scale French. Grammatically English   
   >>> bears   
   >>> to relation to either archaic or modern German, so how can English be   
   >>> derived from Anglo-Saxon? No, English is a pidgin language derived from   
   >>> several other languages. This accounts for the mixed English vocabulary   
   >>> and   
   >>> the general lack of grammar.   
   >>   
   >> There is no 'general lack of grammar' in English. This is immediately   
   >> obvious when you hear someone who does not know English well making   
   >> grammatical mistakes.   
   >>   
   >> Nor is English a pidgin language - Modern English is derived via   
   >> Middle English from Old English (Anglo-Saxon). It has been influenced   
   >> by Old Norse - hardly surprising considering the political sway   
   >> held by Scandinavians in Britain at one time and the more or less   
   >> mutual intelligibility of the Old Norse and Old English languages.   
   >>   
   >> English vocabulary does borrow heavily from other languages but   
   >> that is not unusual. Most of the basic ordinary words that are used   
   >> in English can in fact be traced back to Anglo-Saxon.   
   >>   
   >> Axel   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   And many people don't like it and plonk the offending posters in their   
   killfile.   
   PLONK!   
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   Robert Peffers,   
   Kelty,   
   Fife,   
   Scotland, (UK).   
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   Scotland).   
      
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