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   Wade Baugher to Searles O'Dubhain   
   Re: satire   
   10 Jul 06 10:39:27   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.spirituality.druid   
   From: xremovexwade180@comcast.net   
      
   Nede raises three blisters on the king and they eventually   
   kill him.  Because the satire was unjust a rock explodes and   
   a shard pierces his eye.  It seems to me that sovereignty was   
   represented by the rock and she declared the un-truth in his   
   actions.  I'd have to re-read the whole story to put the actions   
   into context.   
      
   The satire does indeed appear in Cormac's Glossary.   
      
   There are many lines of thought that arise from the legal text.   
   The power of the numbers three and nine are finally given form   
   in the three nines of the moon.  That had never occurred to me   
   before.   
      
   It also brings up numerology issues.  Pliny's description of Druids   
   collecting mistletoe on the sixth day of the moon.  Which would be   
   two thirds of the first third of the moon cycles.   
      
   2 3 1 3  =  3.123   
      
   When read backwards it falls well within the range of ancient   
   calculations on PI (Babylonians = 3.125 Egyptians = 3.1605)   
      
   The numbers all add up to nine.   
      
   When you throw in the 9 day moon phases you get 18   
      
   2 3 1 3 9   
      
   18 was the number of years it took the moon and sun to   
   come back into synchronicity.  18 was also the number of   
   years between red moons - full lunar eclipses.   
      
   I recall seeing a photo of a rock carving in Ireland in a barrow   
   tomb (can't recall exactly which on at the moment, where a   
   sort of monthly calendar is represented by a wave like line with   
   28 (I think) peaks.  Right around the middle, above the center   
   peak, is a triskellion.  It suggests to me the three arms of the   
   triskell might represent the three phases of the moon and   
   the symbol might denote the full or new moon.   
      
   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   
      
   The poet Nede, albeit through nefarious intention,   
   ridicules and satirizes King Caier until three blisters   
   are raised on his face, those of "Stain, Blemish,   
   and Defect" (Robinson 113).   
      
      
   FERDIAH;28   
   OR, THE FIGHT AT THE FORD.   
   An Episode from the Ancient Irish Epic Romance,   
   "The Tain Bó Cuailgné; or, the Cattle Prey of Cuailgné."   
      
   Then Mave,[35] the queen, her powerful druids sent,   
   Armed not alone with satire's scorpion stings,   
   But with the magic power even on the face,   
   By their malevolent taunts and biting sneers,   
   To raise three blistering blots[36] that typified   
   Disgrace, dishonour, and a coward's shame,   
   Which with their mortal venom him would kill,   
      
   36 "The belief that a ferb or ulcer could be produced," says   
   Mr. Stokes, in his preface to 'Cormac's Glossary,' "forms the   
   groundwork of the tale of Nêde mac Adnae and his uncle,   
   Caier."  The names of the three blisters (Stain, Blemish, and   
   Defect) are almost identical with those Ferdiah is threatened   
   with in the present poem.   
      
   --   
   Wade   
   http://www.eDruid.com   
   "Searles O'Dubhain"  wrote in message   
   news:QYOdnQmqfv0Bri_ZnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com...   
   > Wade,   
   >   
   > Many thanks for the informative posting. It fills in a few gaps and   
   > inspires some new lines of thought for me. I'd not heard the bit about the   
   > cross as I had always thought it was a rod instead. I'll have to pick up   
   > copies of the works you've cited (that I don't already have).   
   >   
   > There was such a thing as lawful satire. Harsh penalties were enacted on   
   > those who did not justify their actions.The satire you've described sounds   
   > exactly like a Glam Dicinn which is described in Cormac's Glossary I   
   > believe. As such, it had the power of life and death to those that truth   
   > identified. One wonders how this life and death was meted out.   
   >   
   > Searles   
   >   
      
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