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   Searles O'Dubhain to Féach@d.óir   
   Re: How to pronounce Bhrid   
   10 Sep 06 14:32:35   
   
   From: odubhain@comcast.net   
      
   "Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   news:hat7g2tdgm3o5ut880ec0kbcag68660biu@4ax.com...   
   > Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >>   
   >>"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >>news:8ka0g2tgfbsvd5gjkc4fnm8dmri3atset5@4ax.com...   
   >>> Scríobh Ciaran :   
   >>>>"bh" and "mh" are pronounced as the English "v".   
   >>>   
   >>> Only when followed by E or I, otherwise they are pronounced as W   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>Not always.   
   >   
   > Pretty much. Caol le caol, leathan le leathan is one of the golden   
   > rules of Irish orthography.   
   >   
   >>My last name is pronounced with a "V" sound. Other examples   
   >>would be:   
   >>   
   >>bhfuil - vil   
   >   
   > I'd say will   
   >   
   >>bhur - vu:r   
   >   
   > wurr   
   >   
   >>It depends on the dialect. My last name is Anglicized as Duane, Devane   
   >>or Dwayne in some dialects and districts.   
   >   
   > Are you sure you've Gaelicised your name correctly? Perhaps you should   
   > try Ó Duibhín or Ó Daimhín.   
   >   
   > --   
   > 'Donegal:  Up Here It's Different'   
   > © Féachadóir   
      
   I've followed MacLysaght in the spelling of my surname and have provided   
   examples for "bh" sounding like "v" from Foclóir Scoile.   
      
   My family name is Ó Dubháin in Irish but I rarely spell it thusly. The   
   two names that you've suggested also sound a bit like mine but they are   
   most often Anglicized as Devine or Devin IIRC.   
      
   Searles O'Dubhain (and yes I know that's not the right spelling for   
   Charles but it's the way I spell it.)   
      
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