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   "Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
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   > Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >>   
   >>"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >>news:hat7g2tdgm3o5ut880ec0kbcag68660biu@4ax.com...   
   >>> Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:8ka0g2tgfbsvd5gjkc4fnm8dmri3atset5@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> Scríobh Ciaran :   
   >>>>>>"bh" and "mh" are pronounced as the English "v".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Only when followed by E or I, otherwise they are pronounced as W   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Not always.   
   >>>   
   >>> Pretty much. Caol le caol, leathan le leathan is one of the golden   
   >>> rules of Irish orthography.   
   >>>   
   >>>>My last name is pronounced with a "V" sound. Other examples   
   >>>>would be:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>bhfuil - vil   
   >>>   
   >>> I'd say will   
   >>>   
   >>>>bhur - vu:r   
   >>>   
   >>> wurr   
   >>>   
   >>>>It depends on the dialect. My last name is Anglicized as Duane,   
   >>>>Devane   
   >>>>or Dwayne in some dialects and districts.   
   >>>   
   >>> Are you sure you've Gaelicised your name correctly? Perhaps you   
   >>> should   
   >>> try Ó Duibhín or Ó Daimhín.   
   >   
   >   
   >>I've followed MacLysaght in the spelling of my surname and have   
   >>provided   
   >>examples for "bh" sounding like "v" from Foclóir Scoile.   
   >   
   > Ah well, I wouldn't know from dictionaries. What is your surname in   
   > English?   
   >   
   >>My family name is Ó Dubháin in Irish but I rarely spell it thusly. The   
   >>two names that you've suggested also sound a bit like mine but they   
   >>are   
   >>most often Anglicized as Devine or Devin IIRC.   
   >>   
   >>Searles O'Dubhain (and yes I know that's not the right spelling for   
   >>Charles but it's the way I spell it.)   
   >   
   > If you want to Gaelicise it, its not the right spelling for   
   > "O'Dubhain" either. :)   
   >   
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   > © Féachadóir   
      
   Go argue with MacLysaght. :-) The name is Devane (Ó Dubháin) and it   
   arises in first report and translation in Keating's _History of   
   Ireland_. for the chieftains of Knowth and Slane. There's septs in your   
   neck of the woods that have different spellings as there also are those   
   who hail from Kerry, Cork and the Dingle area.   
      
   Searles O'Dubhain   
      
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