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   Re: How to pronounce Bhrid   
   10 Sep 06 21:04:04   
   
   From: Féach@d.óir   
      
   Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >   
   >"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >news:hat7g2tdgm3o5ut880ec0kbcag68660biu@4ax.com...   
   >> Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >>>   
   >>>"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:8ka0g2tgfbsvd5gjkc4fnm8dmri3atset5@4ax.com...   
   >>>> Scríobh Ciaran :   
   >>>>>"bh" and "mh" are pronounced as the English "v".   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Only when followed by E or I, otherwise they are pronounced as W   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Not always.   
   >>   
   >> Pretty much. Caol le caol, leathan le leathan is one of the golden   
   >> rules of Irish orthography.   
   >>   
   >>>My last name is pronounced with a "V" sound. Other examples   
   >>>would be:   
   >>>   
   >>>bhfuil - vil   
   >>   
   >> I'd say will   
   >>   
   >>>bhur - vu:r   
   >>   
   >> wurr   
   >>   
   >>>It depends on the dialect. My last name is Anglicized as Duane, Devane   
   >>>or Dwayne in some dialects and districts.   
   >>   
   >> Are you sure you've Gaelicised your name correctly? Perhaps you should   
   >> try Ó Duibhín or Ó Daimhín.   
      
      
   >I've followed MacLysaght in the spelling of my surname and have provided   
   >examples for "bh" sounding like "v" from Foclóir Scoile.   
      
   Ah well, I wouldn't know from dictionaries. What is your surname in   
   English?   
      
   >My family name is Ó Dubháin in Irish but I rarely spell it thusly. The   
   >two names that you've suggested also sound a bit like mine but they are   
   >most often Anglicized as Devine or Devin IIRC.   
   >   
   >Searles O'Dubhain (and yes I know that's not the right spelling for   
   >Charles but it's the way I spell it.)   
      
   If you want to Gaelicise it, its not the right spelling for   
   "O'Dubhain" either. :)   
      
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