From: Féach@d.óir   
      
   Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >   
   >"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >news:anr8g25uau2tm8vgev6oo5huq99pt0qfu3@4ax.com...   
   >> Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >>>   
   >>>"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:hat7g2tdgm3o5ut880ec0kbcag68660biu@4ax.com...   
   >>>> Scríobh "Searles O'Dubhain" :   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>"Féachadóir"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:8ka0g2tgfbsvd5gjkc4fnm8dmri3atset5@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>> Scríobh Ciaran :   
   >>>>>>>"bh" and "mh" are pronounced as the English "v".   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Only when followed by E or I, otherwise they are pronounced as W   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Not always.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Pretty much. Caol le caol, leathan le leathan is one of the golden   
   >>>> rules of Irish orthography.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>My last name is pronounced with a "V" sound. Other examples   
   >>>>>would be:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>bhfuil - vil   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'd say will   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>bhur - vu:r   
   >>>>   
   >>>> wurr   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>It depends on the dialect. My last name is Anglicized as Duane,   
   >>>>>Devane   
   >>>>>or Dwayne in some dialects and districts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Are you sure you've Gaelicised your name correctly? Perhaps you   
   >>>> should   
   >>>> try Ó Duibhín or Ó Daimhín.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>I've followed MacLysaght in the spelling of my surname and have   
   >>>provided   
   >>>examples for "bh" sounding like "v" from Foclóir Scoile.   
   >>   
   >> Ah well, I wouldn't know from dictionaries. What is your surname in   
   >> English?   
   >>   
   >>>My family name is Ó Dubháin in Irish but I rarely spell it thusly. The   
   >>>two names that you've suggested also sound a bit like mine but they   
   >>>are   
   >>>most often Anglicized as Devine or Devin IIRC.   
   >>>   
   >>>Searles O'Dubhain (and yes I know that's not the right spelling for   
   >>>Charles but it's the way I spell it.)   
   >>   
   >> If you want to Gaelicise it, its not the right spelling for   
   >> "O'Dubhain" either. :)   
   >>   
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   >> 'Donegal:  Up Here It's Different'   
   >> © Féachadóir   
   >   
   >Go argue with MacLysaght. :-) The name is Devane (Ó Dubháin)   
      
   Now *that* is a right spelling. Those accents matter.   
      
      
   >and it   
   >arises in first report and translation in Keating's _History of   
   >Ireland_. for the chieftains of Knowth and Slane. There's septs in your   
   >neck of the woods that have different spellings as there also are those   
   >who hail from Kerry, Cork and the Dingle area.   
   >   
   >Searles O'Dubhain   
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