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   From: allan@EASYNET.CO.UK   
      
   "ALAN HARRISON"  wrote in message   
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   > "allan connochie"  wrote in message   
   > news:454b2547@news.greennet.net...   
   > >   
   > >> no, the "City of London" is a specific small area treated as one   
   > >> borough of London (although it has slightly different rules).   
   > >> border marker of the city:-   
   > >   
   > > Thanks. You are quite right, just as the City of Manchester is only one   
   > > part   
   > > of Greater Manchester.   
   >   
   > But the analogy isn't exact.   
   >   
   > The "City of London", with its bizarre and hardly democratic corporation   
   and   
   > its separate police force, is a very different entity from the City of   
   > Manchester. A reference to Manchester (or Liverpool, or Birmingham)   
   clearly   
   > refers to the whole city, including, say, Ardwick and Gorton (or Edge Hill   
   > and Anfield, or Small Heath and Handsworth). To include Salford, you would   
   > need to refer to the "(greater) Manchester conurbation" or, if you like,   
   > "greater Manchester" (lower case deliberate). What complicates issues is   
   > that the names of the short-lived metropolitan counties are still used for   
   > conurbations. Manchester is, I think, unique in that the city name was   
   > incorporated in the metropolitan county name - Greater Manchester. This   
   > doesn't apply to the other conurbations, where a "Worsle mon" like me   
   might   
   > bridle at being told I come from "greater Birmingham" but will acquiesce   
   in   
   > "West Midlands". (Similarly for Merseyside, etc.)   
   >   
   > A reference to London doesn't normally mean the City of London but the   
   whole   
   > area covered by the London Assembly and Mayor. I won't go into how   
   > "London-like" are places like Slough, Staines, or Saint Albans!   
      
   Allin fact true but then again let's face it - if John Motson was to start   
   commentating on a Manchester United game by saying "It's a fine night here   
   in Manchester" then only the most pedantic would pull him up by saying "well   
   you aren't actually in the City of Manchester. You're in the Metropolitan   
   Borough of Trafford"  :-)   
      
      
   Allan   
      
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