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|    allan connochie to Ciaran    |
|    Re: Interesting idea on the Pictish lang    |
|    05 Nov 06 09:05:45    |
   
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   From: allan@EASYNET.CO.UK   
      
   "Ciaran" wrote in message   
   news:454E5F7B.8010900@ciaran.com...   
   > allan connochie wrote:   
   > > "Ciaran" wrote in message   
   > > news:3nZ2h.58550$rP1.41964@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   > >> [My note on his last point: some evidence has been uncovered by Gaelic   
   > >> scholars of a few Euskadi (Basque) place names in Alba and the western   
   > > The general belief is that Pictish was a P-Celtic language, which being   
   > > Celtic was of course related to Gaelic. Gaelic took over in Pictland so   
   it   
   > > is highly likely that during this process Pictish became heavily   
   influenced   
   > > by Gaelic before eventually being replaced by it. There is nothing new   
   about   
   > > this theory at all.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Allan   
   > >   
   > >   
   >   
   > Yeh, I thought Conall had a good idea too - those hybrid   
   > Brythonic-Gaelic place names beginning with "Pit-" say it all don't they   
   > and they are all we have that is recognisable from the Pictish language.   
   > So I would say that the only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn   
   > from them is that these Picts (in the area of north-east Alba) spoke a   
   > hybrid Brythonic-Gaelic language. "General belief" can be just rumour   
   > and hersay. Here we have the evidence.   
      
   Nope it is how you interpret the same evidence that counts. What I am saying   
   is not really the same as what you are saying. There isn't much evidence   
   left it is true (place-names are a significant part of the said evidence but   
   not the only part) but what there is has brought the academic community who   
   study it to conclude that over the area showing Brythonic place-names (which   
   is basically from Fife right up through the heartland of both the southern   
   and northern Picts) that a Brythonic language was spoken just as Brythonic   
   langages were spoken over the rest of Britain. Gaelic at that time was   
   basically restricted to the Argyll area (Dalriada). Gaelic influence spread   
   and eventually became the dominant language.   
      
   Allan   
      
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