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      XPost: soc.history.war.misc, soc.culture.scottish, alt.religion.       hristian.presbyterian       XPost: alt.religion.christian.baptist       From: cequka@iprimus.com.au              The Scottish aristocracy was so arrogant and snobbish that they refused to       grant to their middling class or middle class peasantry the right to use       longbows on a large scale when fighting in major battles against English       longbow archers. This led to disastrous and humiliating defeats for the       Scottish armies against English armies at the Battles of Dupplin Moor in       1332, Halidon Hill in 1333, St. Neville's Cross in 1346, Flodden Field in       1513, Solway Moss in 1542, and Pinkie Cleugh in 1547. The longbow had a much       better rate of fire, range, accuracy, and penetrating power than the       crossbow. Although the Welsh also used the longbow extensively, the       Anglo-Norman Welsh Marcher or frontier counts and barons learned from the       Welsh, employing Welsh mercenaries and English yeoman footsoldiers and light       horsemen trained in the use of the longbow, as well as in the use of the       pike, billhook, halberd, hatchet, and sword. The French aristocrats, like       their Scottish counterparts, also refused to arm their peasantry with the       longbow, fearing that they could turn this powerful weapon against them, as       the English yeoman archers were to do on two occasions against their land       lords, during the Wat Tyler Revolt of 1381, and in Jack Cade's rebellion of       1450, although both revolts were crushed by the English knights with the       help of loyal yeomen archers. On their own, and without the support of       knights and pikemen as a covering and counterattacking force, English yeomen       archers could not win battles, even if they could exact a heavy toll on a       frontal attacking cavalry, and on a frontal infantry assault.              The Scottish were again defeated heavily on four occasions during the       English Civil Wars of the 1640's and 1650's, that is, at the Battles of       Preston in 1648, Dunbar in 1650, Inverkeithing in 1651, and Worcester in       1651. Oliver Cromwell's disciplined, well trained, well armed, well paid,       and highly motivated Puritan Army known as the Roundheads and the Ironsides       were more than a match for the English Anglican Royalists and their Scottish       Presbyterian allies. The English Puritans were mostly Congregationalists and       Baptists. The Scottish Presbyterians had originally been allied with the       English Puritans when the English Civil War began in 1641, but by 1648 they       turned traitor and allied with the English Royalists or Cavaliers when the       Puritans refused to impose Presbyterianism on England as the official state       religion, as it was in Scotland, and by Cromwell's desire to grant religious       toleration for the Scottish Congregationalists and Baptists. Cromwell       himself, despite his religious radicalism, was in many ways conservative and       realistic in socio-economic policies, as witnessed by his refusal to give in       to the Communist demands of Gerard Winstanley's "Diggers" or "True       Levellers," and also by his refusal to allow the "Social Democratic"       platform of John Lilburne's "Levellers" to succeed. With the dismal economic       record of the late Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact as an example, Cromwell did       England a favour by refusing to allow Winstanley and Lilburne to succeed,       much as Napoleon Bonaparte was to later do with the French Enrages led by       Nicholas Noel-Gracchus Babeuf, although Martin Luther was rather excessive       and cruel in his urging the German knightly landlords in crushing the German       Peasant Revolt of 1525. Cromwell did not support the dissolution of the       English House of Lords, and he also maintained a high property qualification       for the eligibility to vote in House of Commons elections, some 200 pounds       per annum worth of property to be owned by an adult male, a high sum of       money for the 1650's. Not until 1911 were the English House of Commons       members paid by tax-payer funded salaries, meaning that most of its members       until then were obliged to be men of wealthy status in order to sit as       unpaid legislators. Cromwell was probably in the main sincere when he said       that the reason why he wished to allow the Jews to legally settle in England       was in order to encourage their conversion to Christianity, and he quoted       St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans 10 : 14 - 15 in support of this. The       English Presbyterian William Prynne was opposed to this Jewish immigration       policy, and Martin Luther himself had violently denounced the Jews in his       1543 published pamphlet called "On the Jews and Their Lies," after his hopes       for the large-scale, voluntary conversion of the Jews to Lutheran       Christianity did not happen. The Dutch Reformed Calvinist or Presbyterian       theologian Franciscus Gomarus also was strongly opposed to those Jews who       refused to convert to Calvinist Christianity voluntarily, although his       proposals against them were somewhat less harsh than those of Martin       Luther's.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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