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   From: d.phillipsonSPAMBLOCK@ncf.ca   
      
   "Raktizer Omheit"  wrote in message   
   news:454ec049_1@news.iprimus.com.au...   
      
   > The Scottish aristocracy was so arrogant and snobbish that they refused to   
   > grant to their middling class or middle class peasantry the right to use   
   > longbows on a large scale when fighting in major battles against English   
   > longbow archers. This led to disastrous and humiliating defeats for the   
   > Scottish armies against English armies at the Battles of Dupplin Moor in   
   > 1332, Halidon Hill in 1333, St. Neville's Cross in 1346, Flodden Field in   
   > 1513, Solway Moss in 1542, and Pinkie Cleugh in 1547.   
      
   Why should anyone think bowmen on either side were "middling   
   class or middle class peasantry" in 14th-16th century wars?   
      
   A principal difference between Scotland and England before   
   recent times was the weakness of the Scottish class system,   
   mainly the equality of everyone (except the 5 per cent wealthiest)   
   in schools, churches, law courts etc.   
      
   > Cromwell . . .  was in many ways conservative and   
   > realistic in socio-economic policies, as witnessed by his refusal to give   
   in   
   > to the Communist demands of Gerard Winstanley's "Diggers" or "True   
   > Levellers," and also by his refusal to allow the "Social Democratic"   
   > platform of John Lilburne's "Levellers" to succeed.   
      
   We notice that Scotland developed no such movements,   
   proposed as the cure for something that largely did not occur   
   in Scotland.   
      
   --   
   Don Phillipson   
   Carlsbad Springs   
   (Ottawa, Canada)   
      
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