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   "William Black"  wrote in message   
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   > "Raktizer Omheit"  wrote in message   
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   >> "William Black"  wrote in message   
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   >>> "The Highlander"  wrote in message   
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   >>>> Knights were the tanks of their time and the investment in armour for   
   >>>> man and horse must have cost a pretty penny.  Agincourt demonstrated   
   >>>> the advantages of the longbow, where the French knights were   
   >>>> slaughtered by arrows, but still the surviviors refused to lay their   
   >>>> expensive armour aside and seek new solutions.   
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   >>> Erm...   
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   >>> Nope...   
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   >>> It seems most of the dead at Agincourt were suffocated.   
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   >>> The armour was mostly arrowproof by that time.   
   >> William, that is what happens when you charge into a ploughed field   
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   > How do you k now it was a ploughed field?   
   > Because I read about it somewhere, i.e. an account written by one of the   
   > English soldiers there?   
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   >> i.e. after the English and Welsh longbow archers had used up all their   
   >> arrows.   
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   > 1.  What Welsh archers?   
   > The ones who were actually there, William, face to face with their enemy,   
   > and with none of the advantages of today's technology. i.e. the genuinely   
   > brave.   
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   > 2.  How do you know they had no arrows left?   
   > And how do you know otherwhise William? Were you there? Besides, if they   
   > still had the arrows left, they would still be using them, rather than   
   > needlessly risking themselves in hand-to-hand combat.   
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   > Of course, longbow arrows   
   >> fired volley after volley into the air in large swarms in an arching   
   >> trajectory, tipped with bodkin points, could still wreak havoc on plate   
   >> armour, and of course on the knight's horses.   
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   > 1.  We do know the French attacked on foot.   
   > William, that would have made them all the more easier to shoot down with,   
   > especially if they were marching through mud.   
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   > 2.  We do not know the archers used bodkin points,  we assume they did.   
   > They may well have had a mixture and used 'type 16' as well.   
   > William, they would have used any weapon available which would have given   
   > them a greater chance at meeting their self-preservation instinct.   
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   > William Black   
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   > I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.   
   > Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland   
   > I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate   
   > All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach   
   > Time for tea.   
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