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   From: ciaran@ciaran.com   
      
   Ciaran wrote:   
   > The Highlander wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:11:59 GMT, Ciaran  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Ciaran wrote:   
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   >>> 2. Place names classed as Pictish start with Pit- (no "P" in Gaelic)   
   >>> from arcahic Brythonic for a piece of land   
   >>   
   >> Can I believe my eyes? Of course there is a "P" in Gaelic and there   
   >> always has been!  (I assume you are confusing the term Q-Celtic   
   >> (actually C - the Goidelic group)  and P-Celtic, the Brythonic group.   
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   >> The Highlander   
   >>   
   >> Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns   
   >> an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.   
   >> The views expressed in this post are  not necessarily those of The   
   >> Highlander.   
   >   
   > What I meant was that there is no word starting with "P" for a piece of   
   > land in Gaelic to my knowledge, e.g. tuathanas meaning "farm" has no "P"   
   > at all in it. Also the following words:   
   >   
   > Proto-Celtic     Gaulish     Welsh     Breton     Irish     Scottish   
   > Gaelic     Manx English gloss   
   > *kwennos     pennos     pen     penn     ceann     ceann     kione   
   > "head"   
   > *kwetwar-     petuarios     pedwar     pevar     ceathair   
   > ceithir     kiare     "four"   
   > *kwenkwe     pinpetos     pump     pemp     cúig     còig     queig   
   > "five"   
   > *kweis     pis     pwy     piv     cé (older cia)     cò/cia   
   > quoi     "who"   
      
   BTW feel free to suggest some Gaelic words for a piece of land that do   
   start with "P" - if you know of some that would be cool because the   
   endings of the Pictish placenames are surely Gaelic. I am not yet fluent   
     Gaelic myself as you most certainly are. See the extract below:   
      
      
   "The Picts left their mark in many place names, particularly in the east   
   of the country. Names beginning with Pit (Pitlochry, Pitsligo,   
   Pittenweem) referred to Pictish farms."   
      
   Gaelic placenames:   
      
   Lochry   
   Sligo   
      
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