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   Message 5,117 of 6,701   
   Ciaran to Ciaran   
   Re: Why Scotland must be independent   
   07 Jan 07 00:12:34   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.irish, soc.culture.scottish, soc.culture.british   
   XPost: uk.politics.misc   
   From: ciaran@ciaran.com   
      
   Ciaran wrote:   
   > Boedicia@isp.com wrote:   
   >> Ciaran wrote:   
   >>> Boedicia@isp.com wrote:   
   >>>> Charles Ellson wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 07:59:14 -0000, "Walker"    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Charles Ellson"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:f1v2p2loqncmeirabloaq5chdu881hjqgd@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:52:53 -0000, "Walker"    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>> Shipman is right. Sassenach means a speaker of the Saxon   
   >>>>>>>> language in the   
   >>>>>>>> British Isles, which includes just about everyone in the U.K.   
   >>>>>>>> except some   
   >>>>>>>> recent immigrants.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> *nglish (language) = Beurla   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You had better take your dictionary back for a refund.   
   >>>>>> *nglish, I think that you have to learn how to spell the English   
   >>>>>> language   
   >>>>>> before writing about it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm not *nglish.   
   >>>>    Are you a *cot?   
   >>>>   
   >>> Better for Alba to be completely independent within the EU. Citizens of   
   >>> Eire and Norway have a much higher standard of living than Scots -   
   >>> despite having oil deposits like Norway and the same innovative people   
   >>> with a wide diaspora like the Irish they are sucked dry by the English   
   >>> so that there is much higher unemployment and lower standard of living   
   >>> than the English.   
   >>   
   >>    "*cots receive 1565 pounds more per head than the English".   
   >>   
   >>    *cotland receives 11 billion pounds in subsidy based on "need" not   
   >> population".   
   >>     Telegraph   
   >>   
   >>     If they need to get their welfare money from the English taxpayer   
   >> in order to survive,   
   >>    how will they be any better off when those subsidies are cut off?   
   >>   
   >>     How will their unemployment situation improve if they leave the   
   >> U.K.?   
   >>   
   >>    How is England "sucking them dry" when it is England who is keeping   
   >>    *cotland afloat and paying for that 2 bit Parliament of theirs?   
   >>   
   >>     The so-called "cots nats suffer from the same disease that all tiny   
   >> tribes   
   >>     suffer from - an inferiority complex and they will still have it   
   >> after they get   
   >>     their "independence".  Millions of them choose to live in England   
   >> just as   
   >>    the Irish did after Ireland got its independence.   
   >>   
   >>    Britain should withdrew from the EU and spend the billions it is   
   >> sending down *that*   
   >>    rathole where it belongs, in Britain.   
   >>   
   > Better idea ? ENGLAND withdraws from the EU and leaves Alba, Cymru,   
   > Mannin, Kernow (including Devon ?) as independent nations within the EU.   
   > We'll see the truth or otherwise in what you say then :-)   
      
   milou wrote:   
    > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:45:53 GMT, Ciaran  wrote:   
    >   
   [prior context deleted by milou]   
    >   
    >> Better idea ? ENGLAND withdraws from the EU and leaves Alba, Cymru,   
    >> Mannin, Kernow (including Devon ?) as independent nations within the   
   EU.   
    >> We'll see the truth or otherwise in what you say then :-)   
    >   
    > .. and the band starts playing The Flight of the Bumblepiggy   
      
   [reply poster "milou" tried to restrict this reply to the British board   
   and has deleted the prior context where Scottish independence was   
   getting flamed - I have restored the thread]   
      
   My reply:   
      
   Better for Alba to be completely independent within the EU. Citizens of   
   Eire and Norway have a much higher standard of living than Scots -   
   despite Alba having oil deposits like Norway and the same   
   entrepreneurial people with a wide diaspora like the Irish, they are   
   sucked dry by the English so that there is much higher unemployment and   
   lower standard of living than the English.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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