XPost: soc.culture.irish, soc.culture.scottish, soc.culture.british   
   XPost: uk.politics.misc   
   From: charles@ellson.demon.co.uk   
      
   On 7 Jan 2007 04:12:56 -0800, "norman castle"    
   wrote:   
      
   >   
   >Ciaran wrote:   
   >> Ciaran wrote:   
   >> > Boedicia@isp.com wrote:   
   >> >> Ciaran wrote:   
   >> >>> Boedicia@isp.com wrote:   
   >> >>>> Charles Ellson wrote:   
   >> >>>>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 07:59:14 -0000, "Walker"    
   >> >>>>> wrote:   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> "Charles Ellson"  wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>> news:f1v2p2loqncmeirabloaq5chdu881hjqgd@4ax.com...   
   >> >>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:52:53 -0000, "Walker"    
   >> >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>    
   >> >>>>>>>> Shipman is right. Sassenach means a speaker of the Saxon   
   >> >>>>>>>> language in the   
   >> >>>>>>>> British Isles, which includes just about everyone in the U.K.   
   >> >>>>>>>> except some   
   > >> >>>>>>>> recent immigrants.   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> *nglish (language) = Beurla   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> You had better take your dictionary back for a refund.   
   >> >>>>>> *nglish, I think that you have to learn how to spell the English   
   >> >>>>>> language   
   >> >>>>>> before writing about it.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>> I'm not *nglish.   
   >> >>>>    Are you a *cot?   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>> Better for Alba to be completely independent within the EU. Citizens of   
   >> >>> Eire and Norway have a much higher standard of living than Scots -   
   >> >>> despite having oil deposits like Norway and the same innovative people   
   >> >>> with a wide diaspora like the Irish they are sucked dry by the English   
   >> >>> so that there is much higher unemployment and lower standard of living   
   >> >>> than the English.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>    "*cots receive 1565 pounds more per head than the English".   
   >> >>   
   >> >>    *cotland receives 11 billion pounds in subsidy based on "need" not   
   >> >> population".   
   >> >>     Telegraph   
   >> >>   
   >> >>     If they need to get their welfare money from the English taxpayer   
   >> >> in order to survive,   
   >> >>    how will they be any better off when those subsidies are cut off?   
   >> >>   
   >> >>     How will their unemployment situation improve if they leave the   
   >> >> U.K.?   
   >> >>   
   >> >>    How is England "sucking them dry" when it is England who is keeping   
   >> >>    *cotland afloat and paying for that 2 bit Parliament of theirs?   
   >> >>   
   >> >>     The so-called "cots nats suffer from the same disease that all tiny   
   >> >> tribes   
   >> >>     suffer from - an inferiority complex and they will still have it   
   >> >> after they get   
   >> >>     their "independence".  Millions of them choose to live in England   
   >> >> just as   
   >> >>    the Irish did after Ireland got its independence.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>    Britain should withdrew from the EU and spend the billions it is   
   >> >> sending down *that*   
   >> >>    rathole where it belongs, in Britain.   
   >> >>   
   >> > Better idea ? ENGLAND withdraws from the EU and leaves Alba, Cymru,   
   >> > Mannin, Kernow (including Devon ?) as independent nations within the EU.   
   >> > We'll see the truth or otherwise in what you say then :-)   
   >>   
   >> milou wrote:   
   >>  > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:45:53 GMT, Ciaran  wrote:   
   >>  >   
   >> [prior context deleted by milou]   
   >>  >   
   >>  >> Better idea ? ENGLAND withdraws from the EU and leaves Alba, Cymru,   
   >>  >> Mannin, Kernow (including Devon ?) as independent nations within the   
   >> EU.   
   >>  >> We'll see the truth or otherwise in what you say then :-)   
   >>  >   
   >>  > .. and the band starts playing The Flight of the Bumblepiggy   
   >>   
   >> [reply poster "milou" tried to restrict this reply to the British board   
   >> and has deleted the prior context where Scottish independence was   
   >> getting flamed - I have restored the thread]   
   >>   
   >> My reply:   
   >>   
   >> Better for Alba to be completely independent within the EU. Citizens of   
   >> Eire and Norway have a much higher standard of living than Scots -   
   >> despite Alba having oil deposits like Norway and the same   
   >> entrepreneurial people with a wide diaspora like the Irish, they are   
   >> sucked dry by the English so that there is much higher unemployment and   
   >> lower standard of living than the English.   
   >   
   >>Ciaran wrote   
   >   
   >>   Better for Alba to be completely independent within the EU. Citizens of   
   >> Eire and Norway have a much higher standard of living than Scots -   
   >   
   >   
   >When did Norway join the EU   
   >   
   Nearly in 1972 (negotations followed by a failed referendum) and 1994   
   (another failed referendum). Norway joined the European Economic Area   
   (an arrangement between the European Free Trade Association and the   
   EU) in 1994 thus being able to participate in the European Single   
   Market without becoming a full EU member.   
      
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