XPost: soc.culture.welsh, soc.culture.cornish, soc.culture.irish   
   XPost: soc.culture.scottish   
   From: allan@noemail.co.uk   
      
   "Ilas"  wrote in message   
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   > "allan connochie"  wrote in   
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   >   
   >> I think that would be a hard one to stand by. What is so strong about   
   >> Cornish cultural identity compared with Scottish cultural identity?   
   >> As for Tyneside North well of course there is a cultural continuum and   
   >> it would be amazing if there wasn't. That doesn't take anything away   
   >> from Scottish cultural identity though. Just as the continuum between   
   >> Cornwall and the rest of England exists too. Locally we call Geordies   
   >> 'Scotsmen wi their heids kicked in' and being Geordies they take it in   
   >> good fun.   
   >   
   > Pisses us off sometimes too. I'm Northumbrian, and I was in a pub in   
   > Edinburgh (Bennett's, up Tollcross) when England played Spain in Euro 96.   
   > The people I was with were two Irishmen and a southern Englishman, and two   
   > drunken neds decided that they'd try and pick a fight with "the English   
   > bastad". They made it clear they didn't count me as "proper" English and   
   > seemed to think I should take that as a compliment. Sorry people, but   
   > that's not a compliment. I may be from very close to the border, but I'm   
   > as   
   > English as anyone from Surrey or Kent.   
      
   You are absolutely right. You often hear the idea that Borderers don't   
   bother whether they are Scottish or English and that being a Borderer is the   
   main thing. Being a Borderer is certainly important to the idea but   
   generally we are as definitely Scottish or English as anyone else is.   
   Likewise when in the company of Geordies or folk from Northumberland I've   
   noticed they'll often have a dig at southerners but of course that doesn't   
   mean that they aren't themselves confirmed Englishmen. Had the border   
   actually been further south we'd have had an infinitely better football team   
   in recent years though :-)   
      
      
   Allan   
      
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