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   From: innes8@verizon.net   
      
   "The Highlander"  wrote in message   
   news:ai89c3p1rv7g8oqb9m9p2l2j7ubgj9nnvm@4ax.com...   
   > On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:36:16 GMT, "Chess One"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Chess One"  wrote in message   
   >>news:shfwi.2547$tU4.1087@trndny03...   
   >>>   
   >>I should correct my own text before others do...   
   >   
   > Actually, you should study some history before you do even that.   
      
   O god! Are you the person who is e-mailing too? You 'should'... etc..   
   zzzzzzzz Lest it not be clear - and take no personal offense if it is not   
   you, take your volunteered and gratuitous advice and put it up your sporran.   
      
   >>> from the northern European plains, with its updated version 600 years   
   >>> later which we call Anglo Norman [which is Saxon via a 500 year sojourn   
   >>> in   
   >>> France].   
   >   
   > Anglo-Norman is NOT Saxon.   
      
   Agree. The Normans were from Scandinavia, no? Tired of plundering Paris they   
   settled down with nice French girls - who would not? Which is the import of   
   the 500 year sojourn, or a bit longer even.   
      
   >>More precisely, the Normans were Viking settlers inter-married in France,   
   >>and their Saxon originated in Scandinavia.   
   >   
   > Saxon is a language found in places like Saxony, which is in Germany,   
      
   Various forms of A. Sax originate across the northern Rhine. There are   
   several, and mutually incomprehensibe. Is this also your understanding?   
      
   > not Scandiavia.   
      
   Which is what I said above - that these raiders settled in France with their   
   Norsc variant of Saxon, which was the same as Viking, since they were, and   
   given 500 years belended that into the French - that is indeed why we accuse   
   them of any Saxon-base to their language. Agree?   
      
   > The Normans never spoke Saxon, and to this day, still   
   > don't. Instead they speak a form of French, which can be heard in the   
   > French of Quebec as a medieval dialect, much of it derived from the   
   > French of Normandy, Brittany and Poitiers.   
      
   Il ne se prend pas pour de la merde, mais il ne sait rien de rien? Alors! On   
   dit os à ranger, on ne va pas remoter du déluge. C'est plus qu'un crime,   
   c'est une faute.   
      
   But never mind Tallyrand, and never mind whatever Anglo Norman via the   
   conquest is held to be by others, la vâche!   
      
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   > Well, that was a fascinating wander through the garden of your mind,   
   > but there seem to be some grievous misunderstandings in your view of   
   > history and geography. Have you ever visited a Celtic country; sat   
   > down with the people; listened to their version of their history, or   
   > is this all packaged and readied for consumption in Detroit or   
   > Minneapolis?   
      
   I am a Celt. Are you somewhere 'overseas' as in generations overseas?   
   Illustrate your points, should you have any that sensibly contest mine,   
   beyond this assertive stuff, or continue to illustrate that other thing,   
   which I think, is not born of any confidence   
      
   I am not a boy, and you friend, are in too deep. Send me a fuck-off note and   
   retire in the smoke ;)   
      
   Phil Innes   
      
   >>>> --   
   >>>> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.   
   >>>   
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   > The Highlander   
   > Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan,   
   > togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus   
   > toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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