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   "Ilas" wrote in message   
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   >>> "The Highlander" wrote in message   
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   >>>> You are aware that Scots and English are sister languages derived   
   >>>> from Old Northumbrian?   
   >>>   
   >>> No, I was not aware of that. Though certainly Mercian influenced the   
   >>> borders.   
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   >> That would be the borders of England and Wales though! Scots is a   
   >> descendent of Northumbrian as are (as Highlander pointed out) some of   
   >> the more northerly dialects of English. Northumbrian at one time was   
   >> possibly reasonably standard from the Forth down to the Humber.   
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   > Oddly though (and this is purely anecdotal, I've never studied it), there   
   > seems to be a change in some words that more or less corresponds to the   
   > border. For example, "glaiky" means daft or stupid in Northumberland and   
   > Tyneside, but the work is "glaikit" in Scotland.   
      
   GLEEK: a jest, or scoff. Also to jest. To give the gleek, i.e., to pass a   
   jest on one, to make a person ridiculous. See Cotgrave, in v. Donner. Used   
   in North for, to deceive or beguile. See Brockett, p. 135.   
      
   GLAIK: Inattentive, foolish. [North] Brockett has GLAKY, giddy.   
      
   The Anglo Saxon word GLE-MAN; means, a minstrel, see Piers Ploughman p. 98;   
   or Wright's Lyric Poetry, p. 49.   
      
   So, the word is either inculcated into A. Sax or received from it. It is   
   likely an extenuatiaon from the Saxon stem GLE~ mirth, music.   
      
    The kyng toke the cuppe anon,   
    And seld, passilodion !   
    Hym tho3t it was good gle.   
      
    /MS Cantab. Ff v. 48, f. 50   
      
   GLEA: crooked.   
      
   Phil Innes   
      
   > Most people even just over   
   > the border in England would say glaiky, most people just a few miles in to   
   > Scotland would say glaikit. There are others too, that's just one that   
   > springs to mind. There are plenty that don't change though, for exmaple,   
   > burn and brae are used in the same way both sides, there are streets with   
   > "causey" in the name all over Northumberland and Durham, place names with   
   > Kirk in them and so on.   
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