XPost: soc.culture.welsh, soc.culture.cornish, soc.culture.irish
XPost: soc.culture.scottish
From: micheil@shaw.ca
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:36:45 GMT, "Chess One"
wrote:
>
>"allan connochie" wrote in message
>news:fNoxi.23435$6z6.22196@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Chess One" wrote in message
>> news:1roxi.22$6h3.4@trndny05...
>>>
>>> "The Highlander" wrote in message
>>> news:iru7c396tar6ct0ofl0euvi0ma2uqvaodt@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:44:46 GMT, "Chess One"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I doubt lowland scots to be any more difficult to ken than Cornish
>>>>>accented
>>>>>English.
>>>> Given that you believe that Lowland Scots would be no more
>>>> difficult to "ken" than Cornish accented English, perhaps you'd favour
>>>> us with your translation of a paragraph or two? I don't know whether
>>>> you are aware that there is also a Scots dialect called Ulster Scots
>>>> which is spoken in the north of Ireland and which most closely
>>>> resembles Lowland Scots, which is the language below.
>>>
>>> I am aware of so mcuh, and care little beyond my experience of it's
>>> presence, heuch!
>>
>> If as you say one of your family names is Roxburgh or a variation of that
>> then it is likely that at least some of your ancestors were at one point
>> Scots speakers so you'd imagine you'd have at least a little bit of
>> interest in it. The name Roxburgh is derived from the ancient burgh and
>> castle. Funnily enough I used to be able to see the castle mound from this
>> very PC chair before more houses were built out at the back. The name
>> simply means someone who lived at Roxburgh which is bang in the middle of
>> the Scottish Borders the cradle of the Scots language in Scotland. On the
>> other hand you said your family names were Innes and Roxburghe. This may
>> be a coincidence but the spelling 'Roxburghe' normally refers to the
>> Dukedom rather than a family name so are you saying you are related to the
>> Innes-Ker Dukes of Roxburghe?
>
>I believe the family spell it Roxeburghe, or did.
>
>> I don't mean to sound too cynical but it is just we always seem to have
>> posters descended from Kings and Dukes, Bonnie Dundee even Charlemagne! We
>> never get anyone saying "yes I went back to the old country and traced it
>> right back to Jock the pigman at Lambden".
>
>I lived in the highlands a long time, and my children were born there. I
>write my own names. I am less interested in what 'should seem' to others who
>have not done so about such experiences, and do not understand the contest
>here, except the 'rage-of-the-librarians' approach which is a term used
>about those people who would reference such experience solely because of
>current spelling or contrast to their received understanding of how it is.
>
>I am interested in the deep history and anthropology of the Island, and as
>expressed before, not the received versions of physical migration, but of
>cultural migration. Indeed, not of nation but of emanation.
>
>Hardly anyone knows very much at all about such subjects, and much that is
>posited [especially on the net] is fantasy scenario written by the willing
>or unconconsciously complicit will, of the invader, or supremicists-de-jour.
>
>I have nothing to contest you with, except to say you do not address my
>interests with your renditions of current spellings &ca.
>
>Phil Innes
In other words, you're waiting for your real Mommy and Daddy to find
you and take you back to the Palace where you belong.
The Highlander
Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan,
togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus
toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan!
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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