From: ian@mcclure.net   
      
   DruidEire@cablenet.ie wrote:   
   > On Sep 30, 8:08 am, "Cloudbe...@btinternet.com"    
   > wrote:   
   >> "Iain MacGiolla-odhar"  wrote in message   
   >>   
   >> news:4700085A.60809@mcclure.net...   
   >>   
   >>> Alfred C. Shine wrote:   
   >>>> Can someone define for me, please, a Celt?  I've heard and read so   
   >>>> many differing and conflicting definitions.   
   >>> A Celt is anyone who takes Celtic culture as their own. Typically, it is   
   >>> someone who:   
   >>> 1. Uses or is learning a Celtic language.   
   >>> 2. Takes part in Celtic cultural events such as (as a small sample)   
   >>> choirs, festivals, music, dancing, sporting events.   
   >>> 3. Feels part of the Celtic world.   
   >>> It is not based on genetic descent, especially since the genome of Celts   
   >>> is already a mixture of people with a Basque base plus Anatolian/Adriatic   
   >>> Indo-European, Berber, Egyptian and Semitic influences.   
   >> Point 1, Anyone can learn a Celtic language, and indeed they would if there   
   >> were any literature of note written in any of the Celtic languages, which   
   >> there is not.   
   >>   
   >> Point 2. Celtic folklore is more important than jigging up and down to harps   
   >> and fiddles.   
   >>   
   >> Point 3. Your view about descent rejects French people, the French are   
   >> direct descendents of the Gauls, they are just as Celtic as you, perhaps   
   >> even more so. Feeling part of the Celtic world, IF all parts of the Celtic   
   >> world are included, is o.k., for example some Turkish and Czeck "feel"   
   >> Celtic.   
   >>   
   >> The problem is the filthy Southern English claim that everyone south of   
   >> Hadrian's Wall, west of the River Tamar, and West of Offa's Dike (NOT Offa's   
   >> wife please note), are genetically pure members of the white Anglo-Saxon   
   >> master race.   
   >>   
   >> Cloudberry   
   >   
   > Yes, Cloudberry is correct. Modern forensic studies, research and   
   > analysis over the past seven years have proved beyond a shadow of a   
   > doubt that the Celts never invaded, nor came en masse, to Ireland - or   
   > Britain either. .   
   >   
   > Michael McGrath   
   > Archdruid of Ireland,   
   > The Order of Druids in Ireland , The ODI.   
   >   
   Yes, indeed, to quote from the Wiki: "The Greek historian Ephoros of   
   Cyme in Asia Minor, writing in the fourth century BC,   
   believed that the Celts came from the islands off the mouth of the   
   Rhine" which describes the location of   
   Britain and Ireland rather well - so the Celts may indeed have migrated   
   the other way TO THE CONTINENT FROM THE   
   CELTIC ISLES rather than vice-versa. He also said they may have done   
   this to escape social unrest such as war and natural   
   calamities such as tsunamis - to quote: 'who were "driven from their   
   homes by the frequency of wars and the violent   
   rising of the sea".'.   
   ...and DNA evidence backs up what you say.   
      
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