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   "Iain MacGiolla-odhar"  wrote in message   
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   > Yes, lots of people of all origins are learning Celtic languages -   
   > particularly Dutch, German, English and Polish people. This makes them   
   > part of the Celtic cultural club in my opinion. Before the oppression of   
   > English and French nationalism, we accepted all comers into our culture   
   > (even the remnants of the Anglo-Saxon elite as refugess wiped out   
   > elsewhere by the Norman-Breton-Flemish knights on and after 1066) and   
   > today we are getting back to that hopefully.   
   > Ever heard of Taliesin, Aneurin, the Mabinogion (in Cymraeg), the numerous   
   > books of Irish Mythology (in Gaelige) - I could recite the names of a   
   > score of these books, Carmina Gadelica (in Gaidhlig), ... ? But most   
   > importantly, what about the rich heritage of song and poetry in Celtic   
   > languages that is so strongly a part of local and global culture today ?   
      
   Could we agree that being Celt is to adopt the Culture of the Celts? The   
   means to do so are varied, and no single one of them essential?   
      
   By the same token, knowing a Celtic language or dialect; or having knowledge   
   of its mythos, music and festivals, does not infer the same as /living/ in a   
   Celtic Culture.   
      
   Phil Innes   
      
      
      
   >> Point 2. Celtic folklore is more important than jigging up and down to   
   >> harps and fiddles.   
   > Please don't disparage the interests of other people - music and dance are   
   > important to me. You have added folklore which is good too.   
   >>   
   >> Point 3. Your view about descent rejects French people, the French are   
   >> direct descendents of the Gauls, they are just as Celtic as you, perhaps   
   >> even more so. Feeling part of the Celtic world, IF all parts of the   
   >> Celtic world are included, is o.k., for example some Turkish and Czeck   
   >> "feel" Celtic.   
   >>   
   >> The problem is the filthy Southern English claim that everyone south of   
   >> Hadrian's Wall, west of the River Tamar, and West of Offa's Dike (NOT   
   >> Offa's wife please note), are genetically pure members of the white   
   >> Anglo-Saxon master race.   
   > Only those English that adhere to the fascist rantings of English Heritage   
   > and the like.   
   >>   
   >> Cloudberry   
      
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