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   David Dalton to All   
   Re: Music of Tsangyang Gyatso?   
   07 Dec 25 02:55:21   
   
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   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   On Dec 6, 2025, David Dalton wrote   
   (in article<0001HW.2EE50CF80085BC6970000BA6A38F@news.eternal-september.org>):   
      
   > I have a book entitled The Turquoise Bee, subtitled   
   > The Lovesongs of the Sixth Dalai Lama, which I   
   > purchased in 1995 though it says copyright 1998.   
   > It contains an introduction, lyrics, and illustrations,   
   > and was translated by Rick Fields and Brian Cutillo   
   > and illustrated by Mayumi Oda.   
   >   
   > Anyway, i am wondering if the music associated   
   > with the lyrics has survived?   
   >   
   > Also I believe that he was an ootw (Opener of   
   > the Way, which I previously called avatar type)   
   > similar to me, the Buddha, and Lao Tzu. However   
   > he was a 14-years-low/working-years figure,   
   > I am at 29 (in fact it now rounds up to 30, maybe   
   > since the current sunspot cycle is lasting a bit long),   
   > and the Budda and Lao Tzu had 7. Also such   
   > figures share some abilities but each has a unique   
   > primary siddhi. His was musical special ability   
   > (the same as Krishna, Pan, and David of the Old   
   > Testament). Buddha’s was hypnosis special   
   > ability. Lao Tzu’s was total recall, both visual and auditory.   
   >   
   > But the book says he died at age 23. I don’t believe   
   > that, I believe he did his sun stare, thorn hill climb,   
   > and blue rose vision at age 23. If he indeed   
   > died at age 23 then his “dragon demon’s thorns”   
   > lyrics must be about someone other than him,   
   > who would have been the ootw.   
   >   
   > But mainly in this post I am wondering if his songs   
   > including music have survived and if there are   
   > any recordings of them, and if so, how to access them?   
      
   Shein fans has posted some more information on   
   Tsangyang Gyatso and some samples of his poems,   
   including some longer ones not in the book I   
   mentioned, just on alt.philosophy.taoism .   
      
   If indeed he was a poet and not also a musician,   
   maybe instead of musical special ability as a   
   primary siddhi he had poetry special ability   
   (like Heracles, Taliesin, and the composer of   
   the Havamal).   
      
   I still think he escaped death at age 23 and   
   maybe went on tour with his lover.   
      
   --   
   https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   “The strap that holds the cart in rein; Has been let loose by wearing thin   
   By wearing thin, by biting through; The shift in power leans to you" (Ferron)   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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