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|    26 Feb 11 08:51:05    |
      233d07f5       XPost: alt.religion.mormon, alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,        lt.support.ex-cult       XPost: alt.politics.bush       From: clitteigh@yahoo.com              IF THESE ACCOUNTS DON'T CONVINCE YOU THAT THE MORMONS AND THE AMISH       ARE CULTS THAT SHOULD BE DENIED TAX-FREE RELIGION STATUS, YOU NEED TO       GO "TO BE WITH YOUR LORD" NOW!                            --------------       "On sex and the single Mormon"              By Peggy Fletcher Stack       The Washington Post       Saturday, February 26, 2011; B02                                          To many Americans, religious or not, chastity before marriage is a       quaint tradition at best and emotionally damaging at worst.              After all, more than 90 percent of men and women have reported       engaging in premarital sex, according to Guttmacher Institute surveys       during the past 50 years. And the older a single person becomes, many       people say, the more ridiculous it seems to forgo physical intimacy.              That's the perspective of Mormon poet Nicole Hardy, who in a New York       Times essay last month described her decision to join the rest of the       modern world.              "As I grew older, I had the distinct sense of remaining a child in a       woman's body; virginity brought with it arrested development on the       level of a handicapping condition," Hardy writes. "Too independent for       Mormon men, and too much a virgin for the other set, I felt trapped in       adolescence." Hardy, who declined to be interviewed until her       forthcoming book is out, had reached a point in her mid-30s at which       she thought it was no longer worth holding out.              Hardy's essay swept across the Mormon blogosphere, attracting critics       and defenders. They argued about her reasoning. Some blamed her, not       the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for her       predicament. They said she misunderstood Mormon principles. Others       empathized with her complaints. They felt - and lived - her pain.              There are millions of unmarried Mormons; some say up to a third of       adult Mormons in the United States are without spouses. For a religion       that makes marriage and family central to a person's eternal       potential, that can be tough.              Although Mormon men are also expected to be abstinent before marriage,       the challenges facing Mormon women seem particularly difficult. The       church tends to align itself with a more traditional culture, in which       men typically are seen as the deciders and women patiently wait to be       asked.              Frances Johnson, an unmarried 20-something writer in the District,       sees Hardy's approach as simplistic, missing the essence of Mormon       teachings.              "When you boil the issue down to simply, 'Can I have sex or can't I?'       you are going to find yourself in a less-than-optimal situation if       you're in your 30s and not married," Johnson said. "You are going to       be frustrated and probably talk yourself out of waiting."              Sex isn't the doorway to adulthood that makes you the type of person       you want to become, she said. That is a "fallacy and discounts the       value of all the other kinds of relationships in our lives - with       family, friends, co-workers and romantic partners where sex is not       involved."              Chris J. - writing for a popular Mormon blog, timesandseasons.org -       said the lack of sex is only part of what keeps him from feeling like       a grown-up.              What troubles Chris, who lives in Arlington, about his unmarried state       is the "persistent feeling of unsettledness that leaves so many       personal triumphs and tragedies - and the overall arc of my life -       doggedly incomplete."              Marybeth Raynes, a Salt Lake City psychologist and sex therapist, said       any institution with clear behavior boundaries is going to be       difficult for "outliers," those who do not follow all the rules.              Such a dynamic can lead to a "split life" for such people, who may       choose to give up either their sexuality or their spirituality.              "Each person has to resolve that for themselves," Raynes said. "Some       women - a minority, I think - lead a double life as the church would       define it, saying, 'This part is between me and God.'"              Stephen Lamb, a Mormon and a doctor, applauds the LDS Church's "stern       but compassionate approach" and blames modern society for equating sex       with maturity.              A recent Brigham Young University study reported that couples who       delayed sex until after marriage reported greater satisfaction in       their communication - and in their sex lives - than those who didn't       wait.              "The hypersexual culture in which we live has one pervasive message to       young adults and it is that happiness can only be derived through       sex," said Lamb, co-author of "Between Husband and Wife: Gospel       Perspectives on Marital Intimacy."              "But the vast majority of LDS kids who succumb to that illusion       eventually discover that sex before marriage doesn't bring happiness       and doesn't make them more fulfilled," Lamb said.              Mormons teach that no one attains the highest reaches of heaven alone.       And although LDS doctrine reassures members that all righteous Mormons       eventually will wed - whether here or in the hereafter - marriage       remains a requirement.              LDS spokesman Michael Purdy said church leaders care deeply about the       welfare of Mormon singles and "value these members just as they love       and value all members." Purdy acknowledged that "this love and support       are not always shown the way they should be" and said any       insensitivity is "unacceptable."              Many single Latter-day Saints "live happy, fulfilled lives and       contribute greatly to the church," Purdy said. "These faithful members       recognize that while they are not currently married, they belong to       immediate and extended families, to a church family and to the all-       inclusive family of God."              - Salt Lake Tribune              http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/25/       R2011022506370.html                            --------------------------       AND ANOTHER LAUGHER ...              "Four Amish Children Killed In KY Flash Flood After Missing Radio       Warnings"                     BRUCE SCHREINER and KRISTIN M. HALL       Huffington Post       02/26/11                                   MAYFIELD, Ky. — The flash flood warning went out via electronic       channels the Amish typically eschew: TVs, radios and computers. About       an hour after the National Weather Service alert, four children were       swept away as their family tried to ford a rain-swollen creek in a       horse-drawn buggy.              Whether the family was aware of the warning for their Kentucky county,       they knew it was raining hard Thursday night. And when they reached       the normally tiny creek, it was more like a fast-moving river.              Within moments, the covered buggy tipped, tossing the four children       into the torrent.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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