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another enemy to national security also. Such a provision would not
be needed if actions are expected to be Constitutional or correct.
They claimed that any person accused by the government of terrorism
would be not given the ability to defend himself. It would not even
be required that he face his accusers nor answer for himself. That
was another enemy to national security according to them. In this
they claimed that the accused could be tried and condemned in secret
without even knowing what he is being accused of! This, they claimed,
was necessary FOR NATIONAL SECURITY lest by trials the government is
forced to reveal classified information that may threaten their
foreign policy or national security. Anyone remotely accused of
aiding one declared to be a terrorist by the government even in the
most innocent of fashions could be like punished! YOU REALLY NEED TO
STUDY THE INQUISITIONS PEOPLE!!
Senator Orin Hatch was among those fighting against the right for
"terrorists" to have due process of law. Why did I put the word
"terrorists" in quotation marks? Well let's find out:
He claimed that no "terrorist" should have due process of law or a
trial of any kind. The problem was what made a terrorist classified
as a terrorist. What made the terrorist a terrorist? The answer WAS
THAT THE PERSON WAS SO ACCUSED BY THE GOVERNMENT!! After that, no
trial, no ability to defend himself. The person would then disappear
off the face of the map without anyone knowing what happened to him
JUST LIKE THE INQUISITIONS!! In this they struggled to fool the
American people! How do you know he is a terrorist if he is not
tried? According to these people, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO KNOW HE
IS A TERRORIST!! "WE THE PEOPLE" now has a new meaning!
We have shown that this is not the first time clearly Nazi principles
were shown to be the secret pet of our now converted national leaders.
Long before September 11th there has always been a terrible war
between the government and people who love the Constitution and know
what she is doing. True Americans have been found hanging around
sources of media that presents things they never hear from the
national media. These private sources equip them with information AND
QUESTIONS FOR OUR NATIONAL LEADERS that they know they dare not
address! This is the same scenario we encounter on the internet. But
as regards national security in Anti-terrorism, principles very
similar were also proposed by the Clinton Administration under the
same concern: terrorism. They also were proposing that the enemy is
the Constitution of the United States. See the evidence here:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/CommonAntiterrorism.htm
All of our forgotten history taught us that no American would even
have such dreams IN THEIR SLEEP AND BE AMERICAN!! No person who knows
what it is to be American would even dream of such provisions in his
sleep! We got all intense against the threat against liberty, but
then wound up detaining people suspected of terrorism without giving
them any rights? It was all done as if the government couldn't wait
to show her true colors AFTER ALREADY KNOWING ABOUT THE DISTRUST OF
GOVERNMENT! SORRY! True Americans would not dream in their sleep to
be tyrannical, nor would any form of paranoia compel them to do these
things. You have to already be tyrannical to do tyrannical things!
All Americans used to know that any such are enemies to this
Republic!! These are not the same people in control now who were in
control during WWII! I keep hearing a comparison with America during
WWII to America now. I tell you, THERE IS NO COMPARISON!! It gets
worse as time goes on!
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The time soon came when FINALLY, they condemned the Jesuit Oath.
They, however, did it in a very strange way. After calling us
mentally ill constantly, finally they were able to acknowledge us as
the trailblazers in condemning the hate found in the Jesuit Oath and
in the Ustashis, BUT THEY DID IT IN A STRANGE WAY. Take a look below
and see if you can figure out what the subject is doing.
First comment after the Jesuit Oath was FINALLY condemned, AND THAT
NOT IN THE WAY WE HAD ASKED AND NOT NEARLY CONDEMNED AS WE ARE
CONSTANTLY CONDEMNED:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.religion.christian.a
ventist+insubject:condemn+insubject:the+insubject:Jesuit+insubje
t:Oath&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=it9v1v0cko9t0j3rhh7uj5na
knvd3grk2%404ax.com&rnum=2
Larson is asked to condemn the Jesuit Oath like he condemns us:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.religion.christian.a
ventist+insubject:condemn+insubject:the+insubject:Jesuit+insubje
t:Oath&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=s8im3vssbs9i05r00g7dmj12
8aqrkv4g8%404ax.com&rnum=4
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From: Susan Williams (salethiel77@rocketmail.com)
Subject: #CONDEMN THE JESUIT OATH LIKE YOU CONDEMN US!!
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Date: 2003-01-31 21:16:03 PST
On 31 Jan 2003 13:24:01 GMT, "Larson" wrote:
>
>"Susan Williams" wrote in message
>news:hdrj3vg71n069kf47l0qgbk62pre6e5gk8@4ax.com...
>> On 30 Jan 2003 13:19:26 GMT, "Larson" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> The man has lots of questions to answer that would be committing
>> suicide, BUT the Jesuit Oath allows provisions to lie and deceive:
>>
Larson replies:
>The Jesuit Oath is a lie.
Susan reiterates:
Why then do you keep it?
Larson continues:
>A fabrication.
Susan reiterates since Larson and the rest just constantly repeat
their lies:
Why then do you keep it?
Larson continues:
>It is entered in the
>Congressional Record as PROOF of wrongdoing by people supporting a
>non-Catholic candidate against a Catholic candidate in elections in the
>early 1900s.
Susan reiterates:
What proof do you have of this? Just because another Catholic says so?
Where is the evidence?
Now listen to the strange way Larson condemns the Jesuit Oath, still
with the lie claiming it is a fabrication:
>I condemn the lie called various things - the Jesuit Oath, the Knights of
>Columbus Oath, the Priest's Oath in it's entirety and many forms.
Susan requests:
Tell us about the hate found in it. Expound upon it. You are avoiding
doing that BECAUSE YOU DO MANY OF THE THINGS PRESCRIBED IN IT!
Larson, speaking to the other killers:
>Susan
>won't be satisfied with that.
Susan again responds:
Not till you stop keeping the Oath!
Larson, speaking to the other killers:
>Susan thinks that condemning the entire thing
>isn't good enough, that someone should go through and condemn it line by
>line.
Susan responds:
Susan thinks that condemning Susan line by line constantly and
continually is more than good enough since I killed no one and you all
pretended to go nuts about hate, but have only been accusing me of it
and don't go nuts at the horrible words of the most hateful document
known to man that the Ustashis and others of your colleagues, along
with yourselves, kept.
Larson now again condemns the Jesuit Oath, still with the lie that it
is not true. These have told us it is impossible to condemn a fake
document. Now, well, they changed their minds again and saw the light
always first recognized by the Vaticanly mentally ill:
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