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   From: perfectlyInnocent@as-if.com   
      
   EliyahuSilver@Hotmail.com (Eliyahu) wrote in message news:<7332f   
   3b.0401291052.3d53a128@posting.google.com>...   
   > Perfectly Innocent wrote in message news:...   
   > > Eliyahu,   
   > >   
   > > You say on your page http://www.geocities.com/Metzad/Daniel9.htm and I   
   > > quote:   
   > >   
   > > "The prophecy says: 'And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one   
   > > shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; and the people of the prince   
   > > who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.'  So after   
   > > the 7 and 62 weeks, in the 70th week, will a messiah be cut of[f] and   
   > > the sanctuary, that is the Temple, destroyed."   
   > >   
   > > That's an interesting admission. Jesus appeared as a messiah after 69   
   > > weeks when he, at the age of 30, was anointed by the Holy Spirit in   
   > > baptism. He was cut off 3 and a half years later, i.e., in the middle   
   > > of the 70th week, (having nothing). So your complaint is that God   
   > > delayed His wrath and granted the Jews an extra 40 years to repent   
   > > before He brought His severe indignation upon them, fulfilling exactly   
   > > what Jesus predicted?   
   > >   
   > > http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhdayAdventists/eschatology14.htm   
   > >   
   > > Eugene Shubert   
   > > http://www.everythingimportant.org   
   >   
   >   
   > Bs'd   
   >   
   > My complaint is: A) JC was never a messiah, that is: He never was an   
   > anointed king,   
      
   If you refuse to accept God's own testimony (John 1:6-34), then accept   
   the testimony of your chief priests. They said that they had no king   
   but Caesar (John 19:15). In their deference to Roman rule, your   
   religious leaders submitted their dispute against Jesus to Roman   
   authority (Luke 23:2). The Romans heard their argument and ruled that   
   Jesus was king of the Jews (John 19:19-22).   
      
   > and he never fulfilled the messianic prophecies,   
      
   Are you expecting some sort of blessing from God for reiterating the   
   same obstinacy and rebellion against truth that nearly annihilated the   
   Jewish nation in 70AD? It's clear that God punished the Jews for   
   crucifying the King of kings and Lord of lords, the Messiah.   
      
   > and B)   
   > The destruction is 40 years too late,   
      
   A perfect example of delayed fulfillment in prophecy is the supposed   
   "word" to rebuild Jerusalem, originally scheduled to be decreed by   
   Cyrus (Isa. 44:26-28, 45:13). It didn't happen that way. There was an   
   80-year delay. Actually, the only pertinent decree issued on this   
   matter concerned rebuilding the temple (Ezra 6). You are wrong to   
   believe that prophecy is absolutely inviolable.   
      
   For God to delay decisive judgment, exercise mercy and grant the Jews   
   an extra 40 years to repent does not detract from the divinity of   
   Jesus, the certainty of history and the ultimate outcome of Daniel's   
   prophecy.   
      
   > and the animal sacrifices did not stop in 33,   
   > but also almost 40 years later.   
      
   Most likely, Jesus was crucified in 30 or 31AD.   
      
   > So the Christian interpretation is WRONG.   
      
   The Christian interpretation is TRUE and only understandable within   
   the paradigm of realistic hermeneutics.   
      
   Eugene Shubert   
   http://www.everythingimportant.org   
      
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