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   Message 139 of 1,739   
   Eliyahu to Mike Horyn   
   Re: Brutal Christian lies   
   31 Jan 04 19:33:41   
   
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   From: EliyahuSilver@Hotmail.com   
      
   "Mike Horyn"  wrote in message new   
   :...   
   > "Eliyahu"  wrote in message   
   > news:7332f93b.0401140748.5f4427b3@posting.google.com...   
   > > Bs'd   
   > >   
   > > Read here more about 324 really weird "messianic prophecies":   
   > >   
   > > http://www.geocities.com/Metzad/324x0.htm   
   > >   
   > > Eliyahu   
   >   
   > Better yet, why not post a few of them?   
      
   Bs'd   
      
   Here are a few of the Christian lies:   
      
   Gen. 5:24....The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated....Mk. 6:19   
      
   Look what is written in Genesis 5:24: "Enoch walked with God; and he   
   was not, for God took him." Yes, this is correct. This is quoted by   
   the truth loving, straight forward, honest Baptist preachers, as a   
   messianic prophecy that is supposed to prove that JC was the messiah.   
   Now you might start to understand why there are millions and millions   
   of people who do believe in the Hebrew Bible, but who don't believe   
   that JC was the messiah. When you have to quote verses as these in   
   order to "prove" that JC was the messiah, then that is a very strong   
   proof that there is something terribly wrong with your theology.   
      
      
   Next messianic prophecy to prove that JC was the messiah:   
      
   Gen. 9:26,27...The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem...Lu. 3:36   
      
   Here it is, Noah is speaking here: "He also said, "Blessed by the LORD   
   my God be Shem; and let Canaan be his slave. God enlarge Japheth, and   
   let him dwell in the tents of Shem; and let Canaan be his slave."   
      
   According to the Baptists, not only is this a messianic prophecy, but   
   it also says that ‘The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem.' Does   
   anybody see anything like that in the text? An honest mistake of the   
   honest Baptist? When you look at the frequency of these "honest   
   mistakes", that is a little hard to believe. A not so honest mistake   
   maybe? Read on and draw your own conclusions.   
      
      
      
   Another beauty:   
      
   Gen. 12:7...The Promise made to Abraham's Seed...Gal. 3:16   
      
   Genesis 12:7 "Then the LORD appeared to Abram, and said, "To your   
   descendants I will give this land." So he built there an altar to the   
   LORD, who had appeared to him."   
      
   Another high grade "messianic prophecy". Everybody who cannot see that   
   this proves the messiahship of JC must be totally blinded.  How on   
   earth is it possible that there are people who do NOT believe that JC   
   was the messiah?   
      
      
      
   Gen. 14:18...A priest after Melchizedek...Heb. 6:20   
      
   Genesis 14:18 "And Mel-chiz'edek king of Salem brought out bread and   
   wine; he was priest of God Most High."  Is this a messianic prophecy?   
   No!  This is THREE messianic prophecies! We have here not one, but   
   three proves that JC was the messiah. That is, according to the honest   
   God fearing Baptists. Anybody sees JC in this text?  This speaks about   
   the interaction of Abraham with an ancient priest.  No prophecy about   
   a future messiah.  Another honest mistake?  Or a dishonest one?   
      
   This selfsame text is also used for the following two "messianic   
   prophecies"   
      
   Gen. 14:18........A King also........Heb. 7:2   
      
   Gen. 14:18...The Last Supper foreshadowed...Mt. 26:26-29   
      
   A king also? What does that mean: "Also"?  Was JC ever a king? If we   
   have to believe the NT then he never made it any further than a   
   wandering preacher and a miracle healer.  Having a sign nailed above   
   your head when you are executed that mockingly says: ‘King of the   
   Jews' does not exactly make you a king. It takes a little bit more   
   than that.   
      
   From the fact that here is spoken about bread and wine the Baptist   
   conclude that this must be a prophecy pointing forward to the last   
   supper. Isn't that logical? Why else would bread and wine be brought   
   to Abraham? Of course not for trivial reasons like Abraham being   
   hungry and thirsty. It's obvious that Melchizedek bringing bread and   
   wine to Abraham proofs that JC was the messiah.  Why can't those   
   stubborn Jews see that?   
      
   For the whole lot look here:   
   http://www.geocities.com/Metzad/324lies.htm   
      
   Eliyah   
      
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