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   From: bleahcim49@frontiernet.net   
      
   On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:43:14 GMT, "Dore"    
   wrote:   
   > ONLY   
   >through faith and obedience to Him will any sins be forgiven.   
   >Dore   
      
   "Dearly beloved Friends, these things we do not lay upon you as a rule   
   or form to walk by, but that all, with a measure of light which is   
   pure and holy, may be guided: and so in the light walking and abiding,   
   these things may be fulfilled in the Spirit, not in the letter; for   
   the letter killeth, but the Spirit giveth life."   
      
   “you say … that God hath ordained the greater part of men for hell …   
   Doth not the Scripture say God would have all men to be saved ..   
   ...................................................................   
      
   Maybe the question arises: If you can prove, in a small paper like   
   this, that the New Testament is unreliable and leads to idolatry, then   
   how is it possible that for 2000 years all the Christians never   
   recognized this fact? --   
   .............................................   
   ----In order to understand this, we must realize that for almost 16   
   centuries the Bible was not available to the common people. Only in   
   the middle of the 15th century was the technology to print books   
   invented. Before that time every copy had to be written by hand, which   
   made it very expensive, and absolutely un affordable for the common   
   people. After the invention of the printing press the Bible was almost   
   exclusively printed in Latin, so that it could not be understood by   
   the layman, but only by the clergy. The Roman Catholic Church did not   
   want the Bible to be available to the common people, because they were   
   afraid that when the people could read the Bible themselves, they   
   would realize how they were cheated, and stray away from the   
   mother-church. This was a justified fear, because as soon as the Bible   
   became available to the masses, a major Christian reform movement   
   arose. Hence the church used all means available to prevent Bible   
   translations from reaching the common people. ...   
      
   ----..The first translation of the whole Bible into a spoken language   
   was into English, made by John Wycliff in 1380. But the church was not   
   as grateful as you would expect. Forty-three years after his death, in   
   1428, his bones were dug up and burned at the stake, by command of the   
   synod of Constance. Pope Martin V personally confirmed this order.   
      
   In 1525 William Tyndale gave the English people his translation of the   
   New Testament, and later of parts of the Old Testament.   
      
   On the sixth of October 1536 he was strangled to death, and afterwards   
   burned at the stake in Vilvorde near Brussels.WW   
      
   Luther, who translated the Bible into German, was excommunicated by   
   the church, a punishment that carried the death penalty on it, but   
   died a natural death before the church could get its hands on him.   
      
   .......In 1527 the Antwerp edition of Tyndale's New Testament was   
   burned at St. Paul's Cross, London, and a little later mass burning of   
   these works and the works of other translators began. (These facts and   
   dates can easily be verified by means of the New Catholic   
   Encyclopedia, by an editorial staff at the Catholic University of   
   America, Washington, or through the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian   
   Church, by Cross and Livingstone.)   
      
   -------Later, when translations became widely available, the   
   translations were usually corrupted at critical points, as shown   
   before.   
      
      
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   leading the blind...   
      
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