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   From: John@nospam.net   
      
   "Stephen Bayzik" wrote in message   
   news:D56%b.8432$ee3.383360@news20.bellglobal.com...   
   > "John" wrote in message   
   > news:mbudnQ1rYZ_VOabdRVn-ig@adelphia.com...   
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   > > "Stephen Bayzik" wrote in message   
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   > > > Don't recall calling a phrase out of the Johanian Gospel A "lie"; your   
   > > > paranoia seem to draw conclusions that were not there.   
   >   
   > > > BTW, "Jesus Christ" is a title, not a proper name.   
   >   
   > > Jesus is Greek for Yeshua or Joshua. Christ means "Anointed".   
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   > Still no prise John.   
   >   
   > Indeed Jesus is the Greek usage of a personal name which in Hebrew would   
   be   
   > Joshua. However "Joshua" is a frequently used personal name. And if one   
   > wishes to look deeper into this personal name it denotes "salvation", just   
   > as my personal name "Stephen" denotes "crown". Now since we know that   
   there   
   > must have been thousands of individuals in Judea with that "personal   
   name",   
   > let alone counting those in the Diaspora. So one must explain (or find if   
   > you wish) the family name of this "so called special Joshua". How many   
   > Jewish families carry the "anointed with oil and balm" name. Imagine   
   Joshua   
   > Anointed with Balm as a proper name? Should not this person you're   
   referring   
   > to be called "son of" e.g.. Joshua ben Joseph? Now that would a proper   
   name,   
   > except we must still beg the question, how many Smiths are in the phone   
   > directory. Your still stuck, or your lexicon is, with Joshua, Oily.   
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   > Stephen Bayzik   
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   I'm not even sure WHAT your point is and what you're trying to prove?   
   Speak plainly, are you saying Jesus ISN'T the Messiah?   
   Or that Jesus Ben Joseph isn't the Messiah?   
   I'm not sure what you're getting at.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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