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   FRANKIE LEE to Eliyahu   
   Re: 25/2 JC did NOT fulfil the messianic   
   27 Feb 04 18:42:17   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   > However, there wasn't any redemption in the days of Jesus. Forty years   
   > after his death, in 70 CE, Jerusalem was totally destroyed by the   
   > Romans, the second Temple was burned down, and the Jews exiled. No way   
   > that the above prophecy was fulfilled.   
   > .   
   > .......... Isaiah 11; "And there shall come forth a rod out of the   
   > stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the   
   > spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and   
   > understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of   
   > knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; And shall make him of quick   
   > understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after   
   > the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:   
   > But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with   
   > equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with   
   > the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay   
   > the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and   
   > faithfulness the girdle of his reins. The wolf also shall dwell with   
   > the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf   
   > and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall   
   > lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall   
   > lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the   
   > sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child   
   > shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor   
   > destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the   
   > knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. And in that day   
   > there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the   
   > people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be   
   > glorious."   
   >   
   > Also here we have a messiah who is going to kill the evil people: "And   
   > he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the   
   > breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked." And after that we get   
   > the better world, when it says: "The wolf also shall dwell with the   
   > lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and   
   > the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead   
   > them etc." This is what is supposed to happen, as soon as there shall   
   > come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse (the father of King David)   
   > and a Branch shall grow out of his roots; that is as soon as the   
   > messiah comes. Nowhere here is mentioned that the messiah will be   
   > killed and that these prophecies will happen at least 2000 years   
   > later. On the contrary; when the messiah comes redemption comes. And   
   > also for this messianic prophecy you don't have to be a brain surgeon   
   > or a rocket scientist in order to see that it is not fulfilled.   
   > Nothing of this all was done by Jesus. Conclusion: He was not the   
   > messiah.   
   >   
   > The above is an excerpt of my home page "Why don't the Jewish people   
   > recognize the New Testament?", to be found here:   
   > http://www.geocities.com/Metzad   
   >   
   > Eliyahu   
      
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