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   j w    
   Re: 6/3 The OT prophecies, as quoted by    
   07 Mar 04 06:24:52   
   
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   >I had turned away I repented; and after I was instructed, I smote upon   
   >my thigh; I was ashamed, and I was confounded, because I bore the   
   >disgrace of my youth.'  Is E'phraim my dear son? Is he my darling   
   >child? For as often as I speak against him, I do remember him still.   
   >Therefore my heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him,   
   >says the LORD."   
   >   
   >As everyone can see; this speaks about Israel which was exiled and of   
   >which God says it would return from the land of the enemy.   
   >So this is another text which has nothing to do with murdering   
   >children in the days of the messiah, a text which is ripped out of   
   >context and presented to us as a messianic prophecy, which it is not.   
   >   
   >   
   >Another OT prophecy, as quoted by the NT:   
   >   
   >Matthew 2:23; "And he went and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that   
   >what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled, "He shall be   
   >called a Nazarene.""   
   >   
   >This prophecy won't take up much space,  because you can read through   
   >the OT from beginning to end, and NOWHERE is a prophecy to be found   
   >which says that the messiah should be living in Nazareth, or that he   
   >"shall be called a Nazarene".   
   >   
   >So now the NT is quoting non existing prophecies.   
   >   
   >   
   >Another OT prophecy, as quoted by the NT:   
   >   
   >Matthew 27:9-10  "Then was fulfilled what had been spoken by the   
   >prophet Jeremiah, saying, "And they took the thirty pieces of silver,   
   >the price of him on whom a price had been set by some of the sons of   
   >Israel, and they gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord   
   >directed me."   
   >   
   >And also this prophecy does NOT speak about the messiah.   
   >But what is even more interesting is that this prophecy is not from   
   >Jeremiah as the NT claims, but it is from Zechariah.  See Zechariah   
   >11:12-13;  "I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay; but if   
   >not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver. And the LORD   
   >said to me, "Throw it to the potter"-the handsome price at which they   
   >priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into   
   >the house of the LORD to the potter."   
   >   
   >So the NT is written by Bible-illiterates who couldn't even mention   
   >the right prophet…   
   >   
   >   
   >Another OT prophecy, as quoted by the NT:   
   >   
   >Luke 24:44-47;  "Then he said to them, "These are my words which I   
   >spoke to you, while I was still with you, that everything written   
   >about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be   
   >fulfilled." Then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures,   
   >and said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer   
   >and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance and   
   >forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all nations,   
   >beginning from Jerusalem."   
   >   
   >And, surprise!, NOWHERE in the whole OT is it written that "the Christ   
   >should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that   
   >repentance and forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to   
   >all nations, beginning from Jerusalem."   
   >   
   >Another NT quote from the OT which is nowhere to be found in the OT.   
   >   
   >How is it possible that there are people who keep on believing these   
   >lies?   
   >   
   >For more information about why the Jewish people don't recognize the   
   >NT, look here:  http://www.geocities.com/Metzad   
      
      
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