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   From: Rafael_Leyre@yahoo.com   
      
   deluxe  wrote in message news:<4-2dnegIeuS_   
   U_d4p2dnA@eclipse.net.uk>...   
   > Frank Trebor wrote:   
   > > I agree, "deluxe", but you did not offer an alternative.....   
   >   
   > I wasn't asked to.   
   <..>   
   >   
   > > Jesus Himself quoted these two when asked which was the greatest   
   > > commandment,   
   > > Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with   
   all   
   > > thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the   
   > > first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt   
   > > love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the   
   law   
   > > and the prophets.   
   > >   
   > > I rest my case.   
      
   In which way are my items vague? Take every word simply for what it   
   is, and there will be no room for misinterpretation.   
      
   You quote Jesus, but unfortunately I don't know this person. I am one   
   of millions of people who grew up in a brutal world and have to figure   
   out how to live. Unfortunately, the bible rings no bell to me.   
      
   Am I not allowed to try to find a good morality out of my personal   
   history? Must I have been brought up with the bible, or humbly submit   
   to something I hardly understand, to be able to lead a good life?   
      
   Is the core of your reaction that it is forbidden to have a personal   
   conscience?   
      
      
   Rafael Leyre   
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