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   Message 271 of 1,739   
   Rafael Leyre to Frank Trebor   
   Re: essential morality   
   18 Jun 04 14:42:00   
   
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   From: Rafael_Leyre@yahoo.com   
      
   "Frank Trebor"  wrote in message news:   
   1087562989.223433@drone5.qsi.net.nz>...   
   > "Rafael Leyre"  wrote   
   > There is ample room for misinterpretation, just like your god!   
   > (In case you don't recognise him, his name is "satan".)   
   I had no clue. Is it an all right god?   
      
   > > You quote Jesus, but unfortunately I don't know this person.   
   > You had better get to know Him,   
   > as He is the only one who can grant you eternal life   
      
   So if you unfortunately don't know this person, you don't live   
   forever? Is it bad not to live forever? It sounds rather as a comfort   
   to me.   
      
   > > Am I not allowed to try to find a good morality out of my personal   
   > > history? Must I have been brought up with the bible, or humbly submit   
   > > to something I hardly understand, to be able to lead a good life?   
      
   > I could mention several Bible verses, but no, get yourself a Bible,   
   > and pray to the true God of heaven for the understanding that   
   > only He can give.   
      
   I really don't how to pray, and I have no reason to bother.   
      
   > > Is the core of your reaction that it is forbidden to have a personal   
   > > conscience?   
   >   
   > Not at all, but mine is guided by the true God of heaven   
   > via His Holy Spirit.   
      
   Whatever pleasures you, but don't have the vanity to say that I must   
   be attracted to the same things you are. So you can have a personal   
   conscience, but you can't guide it yourself? Why would you call it   
   personal then? Don't you have any responsability but fear?   
      
   Rafael Leyre   
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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