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   From: Rafael_Leyre@yahoo.com   
      
   deluxe  wrote in message news:...   
   > Rafael Leyre wrote:   
   > >   
   > > In which way are my items vague? Take every word simply for what it   
   > > is, and there will be no room for misinterpretation.   
   >   
   > The core of my reaction is that your list of 'essential morality'   
   > is ill defined. What is 'health care' and how does it relate to   
   > 'essential morality'?   
      
   Health care is providing health.   
      
   > Is it immoral for me to not provide health care for others?   
      
   Of course.   
      
   > Is it immoral for me to open a women's hospital?   
      
   Of course not, but it would be immoral no to organize adequate help to   
   someone in real need because he is no woman.   
      
   > Is it immoral for me to treat people by discrimination on their   
   > ability to pay?   
      
   Of course.   
      
   > Is it immoral for me to prefer treatment of my parents over treatment of   
   others?   
   Of course not. It would be immoral however not to *desire* sufficent   
   opportunities for treatment, and make this choice obsolete.   
      
   > What does this 'health care' include?   
      
   Care for health   
      
   > Does this include breast implant operations? Tatoo removals?   
      
   Of course No. No. No. I see no reason for those questions.   
      
   > Plastic surgery for burns victims?   
      
   Can be an health isssue or not. Yes or no.   
      
   > Fertility treatment?   
      
   Of course not.   
      
   > I could go on and on   
      
   But could you get near any proof that those esentials are vague?   
      
   > Why is it immoral not to have an aversion to something & Why is it immoral   
   not to have a desire for something?   
      
   Because morality, in the view I presented, must be an active principle   
   if it ever can help to make daily life better (which is the only   
   humble ambition). It is not sufficient to abstain. You need to strive   
   for some things and against other things.   
   Because society is only viable if some practices are resolutely   
   rejected and other are impatiently wanted.   
      
   > What is 'consideration'?   
      
   Sorry, 'thoughtful' is a better word.   
      
   Mind that this 'essential morality' is rather meant to be the defence   
   of a state of mind than a legal text.   
      
   Rafael Leyre   
   http://www.essayvtm.netfirms.com   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)