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   Message 275 of 1,739   
   Rafael Leyre to Frank Trebor   
   Re: essential morality   
   19 Jun 04 08:13:48   
   
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   From: Rafael_Leyre@yahoo.com   
      
   "Frank Trebor"  wrote in message news:   
   1087606611.184541@drone5.qsi.net.nz>...   
   > "Rafael Leyre"  wrote   
   > > > (In case you don't recognise your god, his name is "satan".)   
   > > I had no clue. Is it an all right god?   
   >   
   > * Now you really are being stupid.   
   > On your web pages http://www.essayvtm.netfirms.com  you claim:-   
   > "The first months I lived in the company of three Jehovah's witnesses"   
   > So, I say to you, you are a LIAR! Because Rafael, I too have been in the   
   > company of JW's and they NEVER miss a moment to try to convert you!   
   >   
   You are becoming unfriendly. I really don't remember any effort -   
   there might have been - of those JW's to convert me. Maybe the drive   
   to convert was not all that strong because we felt united on our   
   pacifist positions. If they tried, it was certainly not ardently or   
   rudely. I remember philosophical conversations in a friendly tone, of   
   which I certainly learned much - I did not pick anything up about   
   heaven or afterlife (of course it might have been brought up - I don't   
   remember, maybe because I am not interested. And it is forty years ago   
   now). Pleas understand that I made clear that those things have no   
   *meaning* to me: I don't say I never heard the *words*.   
      
   But this thread is very fast moving away from the original question.   
   How do you feel about the proposition of an essential morality for   
   humans within your religion and for those without? This is not meant   
   as an attack to you, and I dont understand why I am attacked by you.   
      
   I think I have learned now that you reject my proposition and that it   
   is forbidden to try to make life on earth better. I don't think the   
   JW's I spent day and night with for months would have said the same.   
      
   Rafael Leyre   
   http://www.essayvtm.netfirms.com   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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