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   From: saul_sabia@yahoo.com   
      
   Rafael_Leyre@yahoo.com (Rafael Leyre) wrote in message news:...   
   > saul_sabia@yahoo.com (Saul_Sabia) wrote in message news:<262c3   
   a5.0406200148.3f8d2f5f@posting.google.com>...   
   >   
   > > physical punishment is necessary. i firmly believe in the death penalty,   
   > > for instance. some people just do not want to change into that beautiful   
   > > snowflake that they could be. if you choose to be a killer or rapist,   
   > > then you deserve to die.   
   >   
   > I admit that I also am tempted when I think of some specific   
   > criminals. But the issue is that once the principle is accepted, you   
   > can not control anymore if the principle will become a pretext for   
   > cold blooded murder by fanatics, dictators etc...   
      
   ? how do you draw this conclusion?   
      
   putting someone to death after due process of law (trial by jury, appeal,   
   etc.) is perfectly acceptable to me, as long as it is just. obviously   
   fanatics and dictators aren't going to be just, as they would be most   
   likely irrational to some extent.   
      
   i didn't say condemning someone to death was okay, what i said was that   
   if you choose to do bad things and won't stop doing sufficiently bad   
   things, then you have chosen to forfeit the privilege of life.   
   life isn't a right, it's a privilege to me, kinda like driving a car.   
   you can do things, in my book, bad enough to give up that privilege.   
      
   like rape. like murder.   
      
      
      
   Saul Sabia   
   saul_sabia@yahooo.com   
      
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