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   Message 334 of 1,739   
   David V. to Marion vdwalt   
   Re: If I say I have Faith and do nothing   
   17 Aug 04 22:49:24   
   
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   Marion vdwalt wrote:   
   > Mani Deli  wrote   
   >   
   >> "We may define "faith" as the firm belief in something   
   >> for which there is no evidence.  Where there is   
   >> evidence, no one speaks of "faith." We do not speak of   
   >> faith that two and two are four or that the earth is   
   >> round.  We only speak of faith when we wish to   
   >> substitute emotion for evidence.  The substitution of   
   >> emotion for evidence is apt to lead to strife, since   
   >> different groups, substitute different emotions."   
   >> [Bertrand Russell]   
   >   
   > Love - where is the evidence that this exists desire -   
   > where is the evidence that this exists Understanding -   
   > where is the evidence that this exists Happiness - where   
   > is the evidence that this exists   
      
   All of exist as human concepts.   
      
   > They like faith are unique in that they can exist without   
   > evidence.   
      
   They have evidence, your god doesn't. Your god exists only   
   in the mythology of humans. Once you realize that; you'll be   
   better off.   
   --   
   David V.   
      
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