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   Message 335 of 1,739   
   Marion vdwalt to David V.   
   Re: If I say I have Faith and do nothing   
   18 Aug 04 03:34:22   
   
   XPost: talk.philosophy.humanism   
   From: heaven@queenslander.net   
      
   "David V."  wrote in message news:<3sydnaT3PLh   
   cL_cRVn-sQ@sti.net>...   
   > Marion vdwalt wrote:   
   > > Mani Deli  wrote   
   > >   
   > >> "We may define "faith" as the firm belief in something   
   > >> for which there is no evidence.  Where there is   
   > >> evidence, no one speaks of "faith." We do not speak of   
   > >> faith that two and two are four or that the earth is   
   > >> round.  We only speak of faith when we wish to   
   > >> substitute emotion for evidence.  The substitution of   
   > >> emotion for evidence is apt to lead to strife, since   
   > >> different groups, substitute different emotions."   
   > >> [Bertrand Russell]   
   > >   
   > > Love - where is the evidence that this exists desire -   
   > > where is the evidence that this exists Understanding -   
   > > where is the evidence that this exists Happiness - where   
   > > is the evidence that this exists   
   >   
   > All of exist as human concepts.   
   >   
   > > They like faith are unique in that they can exist without   
   > > evidence.   
   >   
   > They have evidence, your god doesn't. Your god exists only   
   > in the mythology of humans. Once you realize that; you'll be   
   > better off.   
      
      
   David sir, evidence that God exists is all around you.  It is the   
   dewdrops upon the lushous green leavens at your window sill, he is the   
   rolling hills which swoop beneath our heavenly skies, he is the smile   
   which is your lovers charm, he is wind that whispers it's coolness   
   upon your neck.  He is not a man sir for you to discredit in your   
   disbelieve.  He is everything.  He is the ambience which you suffer to   
   hold on to.  That is but a shadow of his evidence.  I assume you say   
   that there is evidence that love exist - GOD IS LOVE SIR.  GOD dear   
   sir IS love.  Without love we are nothing.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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