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   Marion vdwalt wrote:   
   > "David V."  wrote   
   >   
   >> Marion vdwalt wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Mani Deli  wrote   
   >>>   
   >>>> "We may define "faith" as the firm belief in   
   >>>> something for which there is no evidence.  Where   
   >>>> there is evidence, no one speaks of "faith." We do   
   >>>> not speak of faith that two and two are four or   
   >>>> that the earth is round.  We only speak of faith   
   >>>> when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence.   
   >>>> The substitution of emotion for evidence is apt to   
   >>>> lead to strife, since different groups, substitute   
   >>>> different emotions." [Bertrand Russell]   
   >>>   
   >>> Love - where is the evidence that this exists desire   
   >>> - where is the evidence that this exists   
   >>> Understanding - where is the evidence that this   
   >>> exists Happiness - where is the evidence that this   
   >>> exists   
   >>   
   >> All of exist as human concepts.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> They like faith are unique in that they can exist   
   >>> without evidence.   
   >>   
   >> They have evidence, your god doesn't. Your god exists   
   >> only in the mythology of humans. Once you realize that;   
   >> you'll be better off.   
   >   
   > David sir, evidence that God exists is all around you.   
      
   That's a claim, not proof. When you get proof then I'll   
   listen. It's obvious that you have a religious addiction and   
   need help. There are many here that can help you. All you   
   need to do is ask.   
   --   
   David V.   
      
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