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   "David V."  wrote in message news:...   
   > Marion vdwalt wrote:   
   > > "David V."  wrote   
   > >   
   > >> Marion vdwalt wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> Mani Deli  wrote   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> "We may define "faith" as the firm belief in   
   > >>>> something for which there is no evidence.  Where   
   > >>>> there is evidence, no one speaks of "faith." We do   
   > >>>> not speak of faith that two and two are four or   
   > >>>> that the earth is round.  We only speak of faith   
   > >>>> when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence.   
   > >>>> The substitution of emotion for evidence is apt to   
   > >>>> lead to strife, since different groups, substitute   
   > >>>> different emotions." [Bertrand Russell]   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Love - where is the evidence that this exists desire   
   > >>> - where is the evidence that this exists   
   > >>> Understanding - where is the evidence that this   
   > >>> exists Happiness - where is the evidence that this   
   > >>> exists   
   > >>   
   > >> All of exist as human concepts.   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>> They like faith are unique in that they can exist   
   > >>> without evidence.   
   > >>   
   > >> They have evidence, your god doesn't. Your god exists   
   > >> only in the mythology of humans. Once you realize that;   
   > >> you'll be better off.   
   > >   
   > > David sir, evidence that God exists is all around you.   
   >   
   > That's a claim, not proof. When you get proof then I'll   
   > listen. It's obvious that you have a religious addiction and   
   > need help. There are many here that can help you. All you   
   > need to do is ask.   
      
   Dear Sir,   
   It is obvious that you DO NOT have a religious addiction and that my   
   friend warrants your own need for assistance in spiritual matters for   
   I am free, my soul is blessed and gods presence in me is a gift that   
   only you may ever HOPE aspire to.  Sir I don't go to church, I don't   
   pray and  I don't read the bible or even aspire to.  What I do do is   
   promote love with a smile, promote it's power with my attention,   
   promote it's ambience with music and promote it's existence in our   
   realm this dawning. I sit here free from jealousy and envy, potent in   
   moral standing and attitude, delirious in my religious ambience   
   -(given I detest the word religion) and you say I should feel ashamed   
   to have such a character - you should be ashamed of yourself.  It   
   saddens me sir that there are faithless people like yourself out to   
   proof souls like myself should not exist, or should be deemed   
   dependent - you have alot to learn about the the laws of the universe   
   and the authority which our heaven casts upon you.  Namaste.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)