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|    Kathleen to All    |
|    Re: Christian leadership. Advice needed     |
|    15 Nov 03 20:27:33    |
      [continued from previous message]              race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does       not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession.."              b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda       to impressionable children. Hitler backed up the notion that all       people need faith and religious education: "By helping to raise man       above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to       the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from       present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic       principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by       abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an       equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of       their existence." Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)              c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that       Christianity was taught.              d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in       textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until       1961.              e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to       forcibly convert all its military.              f) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious       symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on       military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I       believe my Opa had one) which reads "Gott Mit Uns". For those of you       who do not speak German it is translated as "God With Us".              g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy       water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on       a maneuver.              h) The Nazis created a secret service called the "SS Reich" that would       act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was       suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but       CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.              4) Quotes from Hitler:               Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his       faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany. Nazism presents an       embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their       faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views. The following       words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and       reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:               "National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for       worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon       racial principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the       care and leadership of a people defined by a common       blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk       with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal       into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but       something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with       us. At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but       clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But       since we set as the central point of this perception and of this       profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the       future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a       divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of       a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord. Our       worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that       reason, because natural, therefore God-willed. Our humility is the       unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as       they are known to us men." -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept.1938.        We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We       have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,       and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have       stamped it out. -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933 [       statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as       favoring atheism. Hitler wanted to form a society in which ALL people       worshipped Jesus and considered any questioning of such to be heresy.       The Holocaust was like a modern inquisition, killing all who did not       accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed then any other it should be       noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and atheists were murdered for their       non-belief in Christ.]               Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack       the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:               "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a       fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded       by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and       summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest       not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian       and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at       last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the       Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for       the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand       years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever       before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood       upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be       cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.       And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting       rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I       have also a duty to my own people." -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12       April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April       1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press,       1942)               "Christianity could not content itself with building up its own       altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the       heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its       apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute       presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here       that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which       Christianity was founded.)               "The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes       the living shape of the Jew. "-Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of       the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based       on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after       him, continued this "tradition" up until the 20th century.)               "With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks       in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus       stealing her from her people." - Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common       in war for one race to rape another so that they can "defile" the race       and assimilate their own. Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)               "The best characterization is provided by the product of this       religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,       and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature       two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new       doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward       the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive       from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then       as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business       existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our       present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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