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   Kathleen to All   
   Re: Christian leadership. Advice needed    
   15 Nov 03 20:27:33   
   
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   race.  The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does   
   not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession.."   
      
   b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda   
   to impressionable children.  Hitler backed up the notion that all   
   people need faith and religious education: "By helping to raise man   
   above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to   
   the securing and safeguarding of his existence.  Take away from   
   present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic   
   principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by   
   abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an   
   equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of   
   their existence."  Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)   
      
   c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that   
   Christianity was taught.   
      
   d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in   
   textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until   
   1961.   
      
   e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to   
   forcibly convert all its military.   
      
   f) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious   
   symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on   
   military gear.  An example here is this German army belt buckle (I   
   believe my Opa had one) which reads "Gott Mit Uns".  For those of you   
   who do not speak German it is translated as "God With Us".   
      
   g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy   
   water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on   
   a maneuver.   
      
   h) The Nazis created a secret service called the "SS Reich" that would   
   act as spies on the dealings of other citizens.  If anyone was   
   suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but   
   CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.   
      
   4) Quotes from Hitler:   
      
      Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his   
   faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany.  Nazism presents an   
   embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their   
   faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views.  The following   
   words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and   
   reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:   
      
      "National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for   
   worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon   
   racial principles.  In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the   
   care and leadership of a people defined by a common   
   blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk   
   with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal   
   into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but   
   something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with   
   us.  At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but   
   clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief.  But   
   since we set as the central point of this perception and of this   
   profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the   
   future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a   
   divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of   
   a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord. Our   
   worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that   
   reason, because natural, therefore God-willed.  Our humility is the   
   unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as   
   they are known to us men." -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept.1938.   
    We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.  We   
   have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,   
   and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have   
   stamped it out. -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933 [   
   statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as   
   favoring atheism.  Hitler wanted to form a society in which ALL people   
   worshipped Jesus and considered any questioning of such to be heresy.   
   The Holocaust was like a modern inquisition, killing all who did not   
   accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed then any other it should be   
   noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and atheists were murdered for their   
   non-belief in Christ.]   
      
      Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack   
   the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:   
      
      "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a   
   fighter.  It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded   
   by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and   
   summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth!  was greatest   
   not as a sufferer but as a fighter.  In boundless love as a Christian   
   and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at   
   last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the   
   Temple the brood of vipers and adders.  How terrific was His fight for   
   the world against the Jewish poison.  To-day, after two thousand   
   years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever   
   before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood   
   upon the Cross.  As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be   
   cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.   
   And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting   
   rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I   
   have also a duty to my own people."  -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12   
   April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April   
   1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press,   
   1942)   
      
      "Christianity could not content itself with building up its own   
   altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the   
   heathen altars.  Only from this fanatical intolerance could its   
   apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute   
   presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here   
   that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which   
   Christianity was founded.)   
      
      "The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes   
   the living shape of the Jew. "-Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of   
   the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based   
   on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after   
   him, continued this "tradition" up until the 20th century.)   
      
      "With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks   
   in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus   
   stealing her from her people." - Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common   
   in war for one race to rape another so that they can "defile" the race   
   and assimilate their own. Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)   
      
      "The best characterization is provided by the product of this   
   religious education, the Jew himself.  His life is only of this world,   
   and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature   
   two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new   
   doctrine.  Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward   
   the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive   
   from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then   
   as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business   
   existence.  In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our   
   present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish   
      
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