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|    Not Heaven and Not Hell - The Need to All    |
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|    31 Aug 04 08:23:37    |
      [continued from previous message]              from the responsibility of reality by counting the stars in the       heavens." (The Message of Human Fulfillment, THE PRACTICE OF ART AND       LITERATURE, A Few Problems Solved Part 1, 1966)              In literature it is also important to understand the inner meaning.              "To understand the underlying meaning of what is laid down in       scriptures, the idea is to be grasped first; otherwise the proper       spirit will never be realized. If I say, something the same word       carries different meanings in different contexts. You have to       understand how cautious you have to be in practising reading       spiritual works. Those with vested interest seek to keep the public       away from the true spirit of the true scriptures, because this       facilitates their exploitation." (SVA'DHYA'YA, A Guide to Human       Conduct, A'nanda Pu'rn'ima', 1957)              In this regard, consider the concepts of heaven and hell.              "The mind has this potentiality - it takes the form of its object.       If you say, 'I am a sinner, I am a sinner,' you will be a sinner.       Even if you are not a sinner but you always think, 'I am a sinner, I       am a sinner, I am a sinner,' you will be a sinner because that       sinning becomes your mental object. So you should never say, 'I am a       sinner, I am a sinner, I am a sinner.' You should say, 'O Lord, I am       your child, I am your son, I am your daughter. I have the birthright       to sit on your lap. Please purify me.' This is the proper approach.       This should be the proper approach.              'My dress has become dirty. Please get my dress clean and take me on       your lap.' This should be the proper approach, and not, 'Oh, I am a       sinner, I am a sinner, I am a sinner.' Never say this, that I am a       sinner. Don't be guided by this sin complex or a complex of       hopelessness, or a complex of defeatism.              And in personal life you should move along the path of       righteousness, towards the Supreme Goal, towards your Supreme       Father. Nobody is unimportant, nobody is insignificant.              And you should never think, 'Oh, because the priest didn't issue me       any ticket for Heaven, I won't be able to go to Heaven.' No, no, no,       don't say that. The priest has no right to issue you a ticket, and       who is going to issue you a ticket to Hell? No, no, no, your good       actions will bring you closer to the Supreme Consciousness (God),       and finally you will become one with Him by dint of your spiritual       practices, by dint of your intuitional practice." "EVERYTHING COMES       FROM SOMETHING, A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 12, 2 June 1979 evening,       Lyon)              "So now, if a man always thinks, 'I am a sinner, I am a sinner, I am       a sinner, I am a sinner,' then in a weak moment that will happen.       [Whispering] 'I am a sinner, I am a sinner. I will have to go to       Hell. The priest said he won't grant me a gate-pass to Heaven. I       don't know who will issue a gate-pass to Heaven to that priest! If       he won't issue a gate pass to Heaven, certainly for this hypocrisy       he should also be served with a gate pass to Hell!'              So you should not develop the sinning complex or sinner's complex in       your mind. Rather, yours should be a positive ideation. 'I am the       son or daughter of the Supreme Consciousness - God. I am never       alone. I am an inseparable portion of that Supreme Entity.' What       will happen? Your mind will be strengthened. You will get immense       psychic power, and that psychic force will get affixed by dint of       your meditation (repetition of the name of the Supreme and constant       internal remembrance of the Supreme). This is the positive approach       and this you must do. You must not develop the complex of sinning,       You must not develop the complex of inferiority - 'I am illiterate.       I am a fool'. A complex like this also makes a man weak, mentally       weak." (SELECT YOUR OBJECT VERY CAREFULLY, A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part       12, 31 May 1979 morning, Valencia)              So what is heaven and hell from an internal meaning?              The human mind is progressively unfolding according to its inherent       propensities. When it finds something that produces congenial mental       feelings, it is called happiness, and when uncongenial mental       feelings come, it is called sorrow. 1              "When a man moves in a line opposite the pull of the Supreme Being,       this is movement towards degradation. Movement is a must, whether it       is towards progress or degradation - whether towards hell or       superman. Those animals and inanimate objects whose minds are not       developed have no chance of being degraded since they have no choice       of movement except in the direction of the Supreme. But man has the       freedom of choice between progress and degradation. (THE DIVINE       WILL, Ba'ba''s Grace)              Only the movement according to the will of the Supreme Being is       movement towards progress. 2              Movement that expands the mind is good or virtue or creates a       heaven. Movement that is contracts and narrows the mind is bad or       vice or creates a hell.              "The subtle mental world (svarloka in Sanskrit) is the pure mental       sphere on which happiness and sorrow are experienced; it is also       called the pure mental body of the Cosmic World (manomaya jagat) or       pure mental body (manomaya kos'a) in individuals. It is in this       sphere that the the reactive momenta to past actions exist.       According to mythology, after the death of the physical body, people       go to heaven or hell. The fact is that the reactive momenta of       one's past actions are that which determine the individuality of       unit beings (situated mentally in this subtle mental world). The       Christian and Muslim ideas of heaven and hell and also in Hindu       Karmakandi Jaemini Partna', were derived from the fact that the       reactive momenta to past actions are that which determine that the       requitals of actions exist and they exist in subtle mental world       (svarloka). In reality no layer of the mind will remain after       death. The reactive momenta to past actions remains as the object       of the soul. Thus the ideas of heaven and hell of the Hindu,       Christian and Muslim mythologies are completely false, because after       death there remains no mind at all to experience heaven or hell."       (SOME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON ANANDA MARGA PHILOSOPHY, Ta'ttvika       Praveshika', Tattva Kaomudii Part 1).              What exists is the potential reactions to past actions.              "It is the subtle mental world (svarloka) which is called the pure       mental (manomaya) world and it is in this stratum that a person       experiences pleasure and pain. Heaven or Svarga and Svarloka (in       Sanskrit) are synonymous. Pleasure-seeking persons perform righteous       deeds motivated by the desire to attain heaven after relinquishing       the mortal body. the potential reactions to past actions       (sam'ska'ras) exist in the pure mental (ie the very manomaya world       or manomaya-kos'a) which is also known as the pure mental sphere.       The potential reactions to past actions (sam'ska'ra) are generated       in this subtle mental world (svarloka). It is the popular belief       amongst the Christians, the Mohammedans, the Jains and the       ritualistic Hindus that the fruits of virtuous deeds are enjoyed in       svarloka or heaven." (THE BASE AND THE RELATIVE TRUTH (A'dha'ra and       A'peks'ika Satya) Subha's'ita Sam'graha Part 1, A'nanda Pu'rn'ima' 6       May 1955).              But:              "There is neither heaven nor hell (Na svargo na rasa'talah).              There exists no such thing as heaven or hell. When a person does a       virtuous act or enjoys the fruits thereof, the environment around       him or her is then called heaven; and when he or she does an evil       act and endures the consequences thereof, then the environment              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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