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   AVERY NEWMAN to All   
   The Passion - FROM FAITH TO FREEDOM (56/   
   28 Aug 04 15:02:40   
   
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   [44] Here again, the fact that the princess could somehow claim the baby as   
   her own provides strong evidence that Moses was never circumcised, for it was   
   not the custom to circumcise new-born Egyptian princes in the manner of the   
   Hebrews. Moreover, the    
   discovery of a circumcised male child in the royal palace would surely be not   
   only inevitable but also a scandal of treasonous proportions, the   
   circumstances of the Pharaoh's edict requiring the elimination of all male   
   babies of the Hebrew race.   
      
   [45] Numbers 12:1-16.   
      
   [46] 1 Chronicles 23:15-17.   
      
   [47] Exodus 40:13-15.   
      
   [48] 1 Chronicles 6:1-81.   
      
   [49] Numbers 3:5-10.   
      
   [50] Numbers 13:8; Deuteronomy 31:1-7; Deuteronomy 31:23.   
      
   [51] It now appears that the Five Books of Moses were evolving under the   
   craftsman-ship of the Jewish priests and elders over a period of about 700   
   years, starting around 1000 B.C. and ending as late as 300 B.C., almost a full   
   millennium after the death    
   of Moses.   
      
   [52] This is not to say that there were not many outside influences on Moses   
   with respect to these matters. Indeed the Bible specifically gives credit to   
   Jethro, the Midianite priest who was Moses' father-in-law, for first   
   suggesting to Moses the    
   structure for the entire judiciary system that Moses did thereafter implement.   
   (See Exodus 18:1-27.)   
      
   [53] Exodus 20:1-17; Deuteronomy 5:6-21. As mentioned earlier, Moses may also   
   have been responsible for the introduction of the Jewish form of monotheism   
   and, if so, then this may perhaps take precedence over the Ten Commandments in   
   respect to overall    
   significance. However, this point is surely open to debate and would probably   
   be very much disputed by most Jews. In any event, the flaws in the   
   Judaeo-Christian concept of monotheism have already been discussed in detail   
   in Chapter 3 “In the Beginning”.   
      
   [54] This seems all the more likely when one considers the fact that, while   
   Moses was on the mountain formulating the Ten Commandments, Aaron was below   
   establishing his own religion based on worship of a “Golden Calf”. (See Exodus   
   32:1-6.)   
      
   Further, the efforts of Moses to establish a “new covenant” are directly   
   attested by him on his second presentation of the Ten Commandments in   
   Deuteronomy, wherein Moses stresses: “The Lord our God made a covenant with us   
   in Horeb. The Lord made not this    
   covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive   
   this day. The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst   
   of the fire, (I stood between the Lord and you at that time, to shew you the   
   word of the Lord: for    
   ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount;) saying,   
   I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the   
   house of bondage...”. (See Deuteronomy 5:1-21.)   
      
   Finally, and perhaps most telling of all, is the fact that Moses effectively   
   changed the name of God. In Exodus 6:2-3 we are told that a new (and   
   presumably more powerful) name of God has been revealed to Moses. That name is   
   “Jehovah” (Yud Heh Vav Heh).    
   Although it is maintained that Jehovah is the same God (or god) who consorted   
   with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, still this special name was not known to them.   
   Of course it may be argued that ultimately there's not much in a name – Truth   
   is one and wise    
   people recognize it by many names. However, here we must stop to consider   
   whether, indeed, it was God Who created Moses or Moses who created God.   
   Frankly speaking, from a historical point of view it would appear to be the   
   latter case which we have in    
   this instance. Thus we note that whenever a particular individual (prophet if   
   you will) tried to establish a new religion they always seemed to introduce   
   either a new God or at least a new name for an old and popular God. The most   
   obvious example of this    
   that springs to mind is Islam. Just as Moses changed the name of God Almighty   
   to Jehovah, so also Mohammed changed the name of Jehovah to Allah. In   
   consequence from the time of Mohammed up until the present, every Moslem is   
   called to prayer five times    
   daily with the resounding slogan: “Allah is great, and Mohammed is His   
   prophet.”   
      
   [55] Further corroboration of this point may be found in passages such as   
   Exodus 23:13 and Deuteronomy 6:14-15.   
      
   [56] Exodus 21:15; Exodus 21:17; Deuteronomy 21:18-21.   
      
   [57] Joshua 6:21; Joshua 8:24-29; Joshua 10:28-42; Joshua 11:6-12; Joshua   
   11:23.   
      
   [58] Exodus 32:25-29.   
      
   [59] Deuteronomy 21:10-14.   
      
   [60] Exodus 12:35-36.   
      
   [61] Joshua 24:13.   
      
   [62] Exodus 21:1-6; Exodus 21:20-21; Exodus 22:18: Leviticus 20:13-16;   
   Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 22:13-21; Deuteronomy 23:1-8.   
      
   [63] Abraham is thought to have lived around 2000 B.C., and the most probable,   
   and latest date ascribed to Moses is around 1250 B.C., although the Old   
   Testament sets the time of the exodus at around 1440 B.C. (See 1 Kings 6:1.)   
      
   [64] About two-thirds of the pre-World War II European Jewish population were   
   killed during the Nazi Holocaust. This is an irrefutable historical fact which   
   neither wishful thinking nor neo-Nazi propaganda can alter. Worse than that,   
   it is an    
   excruciatingly painful memory whose only value is to remind us of the depths   
   to which human beings may sink if “man's inhumanity to man” is allowed to run   
   its course unchecked by enlightened leadership and Neo-Humanistic ideology.   
      
   [65] Here morality may be best understood in terms of the yogic code of   
   Yama-Niyama. For more information, kindly refer to the short book, A Guide to   
   Human Conduct, by Shrii Shrii Anandamurti.   
      
   [66] There are various dates given to mark the beginning of the Diaspora. The   
   latest date is 135 A.D., after the unsuccessful Bar Kokba revolt but, perhaps,   
   more common is 70 A.D., when Titus finally suppressed the Zealot rebellion and   
   destroyed much of    
   Jerusalem, including the Temple constructed by King Solomon. In either event,   
   the Diaspora lasted approximately 1900 years until 1948, when the Jewish State   
   of Israel was established once again. Some Jews prefer to calculate the   
   Diaspora from as early as    
   722 B.C., the time when the Jews first lost control of Israel, until 1948, in   
   which case the Diaspora is extended from 1900 years to almost 2700 years.   
   However, by everyone's calculation, the Diaspora ended in 1948.   
      
   The word Diaspora comes from the Greek language, and it denotes dispersion.   
   The concept of a diaspora arose out of the involuntary exile of the Jews from   
   the land of Israel. Yet today, despite the re-establishment of a Jewish State   
   in Palestine, the Jews    
   voluntarily remain scattered around the planet. This voluntary dispersion,   
   this intentional fragmentation, is not just evidence but rather proof that the   
   cycle is complete, and that the end of Judaism is in sight. Abraham's Covenant   
   can no longer ensnare    
   the Jews within the prison walls of its social and geographic dogmas.   
      
      
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