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|    The Passion - FROM FAITH TO FREEDOM (58/    |
|    28 Aug 04 15:02:40    |
      [continued from previous message]              Whereas both Matthew and John are generally presumed to have been members of       the original twelve apostles, and whereas Mark is presumed to have been John       Mark, a Jew living in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus and, hence, likely to       have been witness to at        least some of the events in Jesus' life, Luke was apparently a Greek-speaking       convert of pagan origin who undoubtedly witnessed nothing. However, this point       enhances his credibility in some respects; for, whereas the other three       Gospels are recorded as        personal testimony based, at least partially, on one person's own limited       memory or analysis and colored, perhaps, or even transformed by some kind of       ulterior motive (as surely one may suspect in John’s case), Luke's Gospel is       relatively free from these        drawbacks. Luke took great pains to get the story from all of the       eyewitnesses, and to sift out the “facts” gleaned from them. Thus his story of       Jesus' birth and events preceding it is unique, and also more trustworthy than       the alternative version of        Matthew. Luke obviously derived his information from Mary, Jesus' mother,       whereas the source of Matthew's testimony is uncertain, and is unlikely to       have been more reliable. It is more reasonable to assume that Jesus was born       in 6 A.D., and was possibly        much younger when he began his ministry than most people generally believe –       perhaps only 22 or 23. In that case the “lost 18 years” compress into a lost 8       years, a much more acceptable figure. Here, however, we do find one internal       contradiction in Luke,        in that Luke tells us that Jesus was “about thirty years of age” when he       began his ministry even though, if we accept Luke's historical data, that is       not possible. (See Luke 2:1-7, 3:1-4, 3:23.) One can perhaps discount this       particular comment about the        age of Jesus, as Luke was clearly expressing the popular opinion in this       instance rather than his own mathematical calculation.              Although Luke was certainly influenced by Paul – as was Mark – one may       suppose, or at least hope, that Luke's account of Jesus' life was not based       overly much on his discussions with Paul. Paul also witnessed nothing, and his       memories should not have        been relevant to Luke's investigation into the life of Jesus.              [92] 2 Timothy 4:11; Philemon 1:24.              [93] Luke 1:3; Acts 1:1-4.              [94] In fact it is quite interesting to note how Pope John Paul II has clearly       instructed his priests in South America to steer clear of politics in their       home-land, while he himself takes a direct hand in the political events of       Poland, his homeland.        Chapter 10 “State Church and Church State” illuminates this apparent double       standard.              [95] Matthew 1:1; Luke 1:26-33.              [96] Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:30-37.              [97] Matthew 2:1-3.              [98] Herod's father was Antipater, an Edomite, and his mother was a Nabataean.       Thus, on both sides Herod was of Arab origin. If we accept Luke's more       probable date of birth, i.e. 6 A.D., then it was not Herod I in power at all       but rather Archelaus or        Antipas, which was all roughly the same as far as our discussion goes.       Naturally Luke mentions nothing about any flight by Joseph and Mary to Egypt –       that event apparently had relevance only if Jesus was born at the end of Herod       I's reign. (See Matthew 2:       13-18.) In order to resolve this discrepancy, one possibility is that a       paranoid Herod I did order a slaughter of Bethlehem infants, although we find       no independent historical record of this, but that all took place ten years       before Jesus was born.        Matthew, being intent on satisfying the maximum number of prophecies, just       wove this additional story for good measure into the life of Jesus. It is also       quite possible that Matthew simply made up the whole story.              Here the important point, which both Matthew and Luke must have realized, is       that none of the various Herods had as strong a claim to the Jewish throne as       did a bona fide descendant of David. Although the Herods may have been Jewish,       their foreign birth        classified them as strangers rather than brothers; and, according to Mosaic       law, they were debarred from the Jewish monarchy. (See Deuteronomy 15:12,       17:14-15, 23:19-20.)              [99] John 1:41.              [100] Leviticus 8:12; 1 Samuel 10:1, 16:12-13.              [101] Psalms 23:5.              [102] John 18:33-37.              [103] Matthew 19:27-28; Luke 22:29-30.              [104] Matthew 16:27-28; Mark 9:1; Luke 9:27, 21:32; John 21:21-22.              [105] John 19:19-22.              [106] Luke 22:35-36; John 18:10.              [107] Mark 15:6-11; Luke 23:13-19.              [108] Matthew 27:16-22, 27:38; Mark 15:27.              Note here that Josephus, a contemporary Jewish historian and a somewhat       in-dependent chronicler of the times, and Mark both use the same Greek term,       lestai, in reference to the Zealots. Actually lestai, loosely translated as       “bandits” or “thieves”, was        the official Greek designation for the Zealots, along with another term,       sicarii, meaning “cut-throats”, which term also Josephus favored, and which       term had been given special significance for the New Testament story as will       become apparent a bit later.        Even the New Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the two “thieves” between whom       Jesus was allegedly crucified were presumably Zealots and followers of       Barabbas, the rebel leader.              The fact that the populace apparently preferred to have released Barabbas       (whose first name was also Joshua, or Jesus in Greek) as opposed to Jesus of       Nazareth indicates a considerable amount of disenchantment with Jesus,       especially among the Zealots and        their partisans. This loss of faith and face is cleverly brought out by       Pontius Pilate in most of the early manuscripts of Matthew, which manuscripts       were later generally amended, when Pilate sarcastically asks the people, “Whom       will ye that I release        unto you – Jesus called 'Barabbas' (i.e. “son of the Father”) or Jesus which       is called Christ?” Beyond a doubt many of the Zealots were having second       thoughts about Jesus; and the general opinion was, to say the least, divided       as regards his alleged        divine supremacy. This is evidenced further by the fact that both Matthew and       Mark record Jesus as being rebuffed by the two Zealots who were crucified with       him, while Luke presents only one of the two as ready to support Jesus. (See       Matthew 27:39-44;        Mark 15:29-32; Luke 23:39-43.)                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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