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   MOVE AHEAD WITH SPIRITUALITY AND LE to All   
   MOVE AHEAD WITH SPIRITUALITY AND LEAVE D   
   08 Sep 04 11:53:36   
   
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   This is the real sense of oneness or non-duality when one loves the   
   Lord.  It means that a person is never alone or helpless.   
      
   "Those who are very advanced, who have ascended to the zenith point   
   of human progress, are also not alone: the Supreme Consciousness -   
   God - is always with them. Even if God would like to ignore certain,   
   people, He cannot, since everything is within His mind. He is bound   
   to stay with everyone whether He likes them or not. We may say to a   
   person, 'Hey, you. Clear off !' but God cannot, because nothing is   
   outside His mind ; everything is within. He cannot order anyone   
   to 'clear off'. If He instructs a sinner to go away, that sinner   
   will say, 'Alright I'll go, but where ?' God will have no answer   
   since nothing is outside His mind. One can easily challenge God by   
   saying, 'You are driving me away but where shall I go? Nothing is   
   outside you. Oh Lord, if there is another entity besides you, you   
   are no longer the endless, infinite entity - you will be one of two   
   entities.' Some people mistakenly believe that this second entity is   
   Satan, but there is no such entity. If God and Satan both existed,   
   we would have to acknowledge two Gods. Satan would be a second God.   
   But that cannot be ; there is no Satan. The force of ignorance, the   
   propensity which tricks one into doing an evil act, can be called   
   Satan. Other than this, there is no Satan.   
      
   God is bound to stay with those who live in hell. Similarly, those   
   who have reached the zenith point of existence and attained infinite   
   bliss, are bound to have God with them. If they think that, having   
   progressed so far, God need not stay with them any more, they are   
   wrong. He stays with all, be they the virtuous or the sinners. The   
   virtuous He must love, the sinners He must rebuke and correct. In   
   both cases, God is obliged to stay with them.   
      
   There is no entity to supervise or administer God because nothing   
   exists outside Him. That is why He is the only adorable object for   
   humanity. No other object can fulfil that role." (THE DIVINE DRAMA,   
   A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 7 25 December 1978, Kalika'ta')   
      
   This should be the proper approach of the spiritualist, the seeker   
   and knower of God.  There cannot be any condemnation, vilification   
   and prejudice in the name of religion.  And one cannot act with   
   inflated ego, project oneself to be greater than one actually is or   
   seek self-glorification.   
      
   For the spiritual life one needs to understand that God is   
   witnessing everything.   
      
   "Outside God there is nothing, therefore subjectivization of the   
   external objectivity does not arise in His case -- because   
   everything is internal for Him, everything is based on Him. He is   
   the basis of everything, so He does not have to learn anything from   
   books!   
      
   It is not in some heaven where one will find God. No, God exists   
   everywhere -- if He is in heaven, then for that matter He is in hell   
   also -- He is omnipresent. There is no object in which He does not   
   exist. In order to preserve one's existence, His closeness is   
   necessary and required.   
      
   If a sinner laments that God is not looking at him, he is making a   
   mistake. God is with everybody. As soon as one will cry and   
   shout, "Oh God, take me on your lap", God will then and there take   
   the person up on His lap, rub off the dust, and say, "Come, I am   
   taking off the dust of your sins".  So under no circumstances should   
   human beings think that they are staying away from the Supreme   
   Entity. Because staying away from His children is against the nature   
   of God. I have repeatedly said that it is not befitting for anyone   
   to say that God showers compassion on some particular persons only   
   and not on oneself. One who says this has an umbrella of ego spread   
   over his or her head. That person is receiving God's compassion all   
   right, but the compassion is not touching or drenching the person   
   because of the barrier of that egoistic umbrella. To feel the love   
   of God, throw away that umbrella of pride by doing spiritual   
   practices.   
      
   So in conclusion what do we get? The main formula is that we came   
   from the same source -- we came from the same unit -- and that unit   
   is the Supreme Consciousness - God. So between human and human no   
   difference, no distinction, can be accepted. Acceptance of such   
   discrimination would be like going against the wish of God -- would   
   be to act like demons. Such demons should not be tolerated by human   
   beings. God is the shelter and existence of everybody, so it is the   
   duty of humankind to utilize properly and collectively all the   
   things that the Supreme Consciousness has provided for human   
   beings." (A'NANDA VACANA'MRTAM, PART 31, THE COSMIC INHERITANCE AND   
   THE COSMIC DESIDERATA)   
      
   "This Supreme Consciousness knows all the three phases of time: the   
   past, the present and the future.  Nothing is beyond the periphery   
   of His supramundane knowledge.  Suppose you are thinking   
   internally, 'Let me quickly finish my meditation, for I have some   
   important work to attend to.  Tomorrow I will devote more time to   
   meditation.'  The moment you think thus, God immediately knows your   
   thought.  Suppose you eat something on the fasting day of 4 days   
   before the new or full moon, thinking that perhaps God will not know   
   it.  Certainly He will know about your secret eating, and He feels   
   amused at what His little child is thinking.  Not only the boys -   
   the girls also make the same mistake.  Perhaps on fasting day they   
   eat chocolates and think, 'I am eating secretly - no one can see   
   it.'  This is defective thinking, because God knows everything -   
   nothing is hidden from Him.   
      
   This is why in the spiritual world, the most important thing is   
   taking shelter in the Supreme Entity. How can you deal with an   
   Entity who knows all about you?  What you can only do is to totally   
   surrender to Him  'Oh Lord, what can I offer unto You?  I can only   
   offer my existential "I" feeling.  Please take it.'   
      
   Mean-minded people often think, 'I am a sinner, and God is far from   
   me'.  Such persons should bear in mind that the tiniest creature in   
   hell, or the greatest entity of heaven, are both equal for God - He   
   is the Lord of both.  If the Supreme Entity says, 'I am only for the   
   saints of heaven, and I have nothing to do with the creatures of   
   hell', it should be said that as saints do not go to hell and as He   
   has no love for the creatures of hell, then He is not omnipresent.   
   In that case God is certainly not beyond measurement.  He is   
   something less than infinite.  Thus in order to maintain His   
   prestige He will have to remain with the creatures of hell also.   
      
   That is why no one should ever think internally, 'I am a sinner, God   
   hates me, He is far away from me'.  The fact is that God  is always   
   with you, very close to you - not at all separate from you.  While   
   walking on the road, if your clothes are soiled with dirt, He will   
   never hate you and keep you away from Him.  This is the essence of   
   spirituality or dharma." (THE SECRET OF DHARMA LIES HIDDEN IN THE   
   MIND, Subha's'ita Sam'graha Part 12, 9 July 1979, Ludhiana)   
      
   It is vital to understand this essence and this essence is the   
   distinction between spirituality and religiosity.   
      
   "Today there is a domineering influence of religion on the human   
   mind. You know that religions are based on dogmas. The propagators   
   of religion never cared to preach the universally applicable human   
   dharma or spirituality free from all narrowness -- rather they   
   always feared and avoided it. What have they preached instead? They   
      
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