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|    MOVE AHEAD WITH SPIRITUALITY AND LE to All    |
|    MOVE AHEAD WITH SPIRITUALITY AND LEAVE D    |
|    08 Sep 04 11:53:36    |
      [continued from previous message]              This is the real sense of oneness or non-duality when one loves the       Lord. It means that a person is never alone or helpless.              "Those who are very advanced, who have ascended to the zenith point       of human progress, are also not alone: the Supreme Consciousness -       God - is always with them. Even if God would like to ignore certain,       people, He cannot, since everything is within His mind. He is bound       to stay with everyone whether He likes them or not. We may say to a       person, 'Hey, you. Clear off !' but God cannot, because nothing is       outside His mind ; everything is within. He cannot order anyone       to 'clear off'. If He instructs a sinner to go away, that sinner       will say, 'Alright I'll go, but where ?' God will have no answer       since nothing is outside His mind. One can easily challenge God by       saying, 'You are driving me away but where shall I go? Nothing is       outside you. Oh Lord, if there is another entity besides you, you       are no longer the endless, infinite entity - you will be one of two       entities.' Some people mistakenly believe that this second entity is       Satan, but there is no such entity. If God and Satan both existed,       we would have to acknowledge two Gods. Satan would be a second God.       But that cannot be ; there is no Satan. The force of ignorance, the       propensity which tricks one into doing an evil act, can be called       Satan. Other than this, there is no Satan.              God is bound to stay with those who live in hell. Similarly, those       who have reached the zenith point of existence and attained infinite       bliss, are bound to have God with them. If they think that, having       progressed so far, God need not stay with them any more, they are       wrong. He stays with all, be they the virtuous or the sinners. The       virtuous He must love, the sinners He must rebuke and correct. In       both cases, God is obliged to stay with them.              There is no entity to supervise or administer God because nothing       exists outside Him. That is why He is the only adorable object for       humanity. No other object can fulfil that role." (THE DIVINE DRAMA,       A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 7 25 December 1978, Kalika'ta')              This should be the proper approach of the spiritualist, the seeker       and knower of God. There cannot be any condemnation, vilification       and prejudice in the name of religion. And one cannot act with       inflated ego, project oneself to be greater than one actually is or       seek self-glorification.              For the spiritual life one needs to understand that God is       witnessing everything.              "Outside God there is nothing, therefore subjectivization of the       external objectivity does not arise in His case -- because       everything is internal for Him, everything is based on Him. He is       the basis of everything, so He does not have to learn anything from       books!              It is not in some heaven where one will find God. No, God exists       everywhere -- if He is in heaven, then for that matter He is in hell       also -- He is omnipresent. There is no object in which He does not       exist. In order to preserve one's existence, His closeness is       necessary and required.              If a sinner laments that God is not looking at him, he is making a       mistake. God is with everybody. As soon as one will cry and       shout, "Oh God, take me on your lap", God will then and there take       the person up on His lap, rub off the dust, and say, "Come, I am       taking off the dust of your sins". So under no circumstances should       human beings think that they are staying away from the Supreme       Entity. Because staying away from His children is against the nature       of God. I have repeatedly said that it is not befitting for anyone       to say that God showers compassion on some particular persons only       and not on oneself. One who says this has an umbrella of ego spread       over his or her head. That person is receiving God's compassion all       right, but the compassion is not touching or drenching the person       because of the barrier of that egoistic umbrella. To feel the love       of God, throw away that umbrella of pride by doing spiritual       practices.              So in conclusion what do we get? The main formula is that we came       from the same source -- we came from the same unit -- and that unit       is the Supreme Consciousness - God. So between human and human no       difference, no distinction, can be accepted. Acceptance of such       discrimination would be like going against the wish of God -- would       be to act like demons. Such demons should not be tolerated by human       beings. God is the shelter and existence of everybody, so it is the       duty of humankind to utilize properly and collectively all the       things that the Supreme Consciousness has provided for human       beings." (A'NANDA VACANA'MRTAM, PART 31, THE COSMIC INHERITANCE AND       THE COSMIC DESIDERATA)              "This Supreme Consciousness knows all the three phases of time: the       past, the present and the future. Nothing is beyond the periphery       of His supramundane knowledge. Suppose you are thinking       internally, 'Let me quickly finish my meditation, for I have some       important work to attend to. Tomorrow I will devote more time to       meditation.' The moment you think thus, God immediately knows your       thought. Suppose you eat something on the fasting day of 4 days       before the new or full moon, thinking that perhaps God will not know       it. Certainly He will know about your secret eating, and He feels       amused at what His little child is thinking. Not only the boys -       the girls also make the same mistake. Perhaps on fasting day they       eat chocolates and think, 'I am eating secretly - no one can see       it.' This is defective thinking, because God knows everything -       nothing is hidden from Him.              This is why in the spiritual world, the most important thing is       taking shelter in the Supreme Entity. How can you deal with an       Entity who knows all about you? What you can only do is to totally       surrender to Him 'Oh Lord, what can I offer unto You? I can only       offer my existential "I" feeling. Please take it.'              Mean-minded people often think, 'I am a sinner, and God is far from       me'. Such persons should bear in mind that the tiniest creature in       hell, or the greatest entity of heaven, are both equal for God - He       is the Lord of both. If the Supreme Entity says, 'I am only for the       saints of heaven, and I have nothing to do with the creatures of       hell', it should be said that as saints do not go to hell and as He       has no love for the creatures of hell, then He is not omnipresent.       In that case God is certainly not beyond measurement. He is       something less than infinite. Thus in order to maintain His       prestige He will have to remain with the creatures of hell also.              That is why no one should ever think internally, 'I am a sinner, God       hates me, He is far away from me'. The fact is that God is always       with you, very close to you - not at all separate from you. While       walking on the road, if your clothes are soiled with dirt, He will       never hate you and keep you away from Him. This is the essence of       spirituality or dharma." (THE SECRET OF DHARMA LIES HIDDEN IN THE       MIND, Subha's'ita Sam'graha Part 12, 9 July 1979, Ludhiana)              It is vital to understand this essence and this essence is the       distinction between spirituality and religiosity.              "Today there is a domineering influence of religion on the human       mind. You know that religions are based on dogmas. The propagators       of religion never cared to preach the universally applicable human       dharma or spirituality free from all narrowness -- rather they       always feared and avoided it. What have they preached instead? They              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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