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   SALVATION REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING TH to All   
   SALVATION REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING THE ONE   
   07 Sep 04 21:39:16   
   
   From: mqlp@cImFqw.com   
      
   SALVATION REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING THE ONENESS OF GOD, COMPLEXES FORM   
   NO PART OF SPIRITUALITY   
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   What does the real devotee of God know?  The devotee knows:   
      
   "He is the Supreme Glittering Entity." (INTERPRETATION OF RA'MA AND   
   NA'RA'YAN'A, A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 2, 25 September 1978, Patna)   
      
   The devotee also knows:   
      
   "The real essence of spirituality (dharma), its inner import, is   
   hidden, is hidden in one's existential 'I' feeling.  The highest   
   goal of dharma is spiritual progress; the terminating point of   
   excellence is the Supreme Cognition.  Where is the abode of this   
   Supreme Cognition?  Its abode is the human mind.  It is meaningless   
   and unnecessary to run hither and thither and to journey to so-   
   called places of pilgrimage in quest of the Supreme Consciousness,   
   because He is seated right inside the 'I' feeling of the human   
   mind.  He is not an object of a distant heaven.   
      
   Now in each and every person there is an 'I' feeling, the small 'I'   
   of an individual.  Similarly there is a great 'I' also in every   
   person and that great 'I' is the Supreme Consciousness.  He is not   
   an object of a distant heaven for human beings.  People are always   
   preoccupied with their small 'I's and thus there is no limit to   
   their afflictions.  But if they concern themselves with their   
   great 'I' they will have no problem whatsoever: they can overcome   
   all afflictions.  Therefore it is but natural that human beings will   
   want to come in the closest contact with the Supreme, to sit near   
   Him, to sit on His loving lap.  But how to do it?  This produces a   
   little diffidence in the human mind.  People think, "Although the   
   Supreme is mine, yet He is so great, so vast that it is well nigh   
   impossible to measure or fathom Him.  He is the very embodiment of   
   infinite knowledge and wisdom - how can a very ordinary person like   
   me understand or realise Him?"  This is simply a form of inferiority   
   complex.   
      
   Yes, it is true that the Supreme Consciousness is very vast and   
   human beings are very small and insignificant in comparison.  But it   
   is also true that the Supreme is the nearest relation of human   
   beings.  Suppose a scholar has his Master's Degree in at least   
   twenty subjects, but his son does not have even elementary   
   knowledge.  Will his illiterate son not approach his learned   
   father?  Certainly he will, because there is between them the sweet   
   relationship of father and son.  Thus there is no room for any   
   inferiority complex." (WHAT IS THE WAY, Subha's'ita Sam'graha Part   
   11, 26 February 1971, Jammu)   
      
   Many people prayer to God for boons or to protect them.  This is   
   also a sign of inferiority complex and fear.  It is not the healthy   
   attitude of a spiritual person.   
      
   "The best thing is not to ask the Supreme Consciousness for   
   anything. According to the degree of their devotion human beings   
   decide what to ask from the Supreme Consciousness. If their devotion   
   is motivated by too much selfishness, what will they ask? They will   
   say internally to the Supreme Consciousness, "Well, Mr. So-and-so is   
   harassing me, my tenant refuses to vacate my house, and Mr. Such-and-   
   such is my sworn enemy; so, O Lord, please let them go to hell.   
   Finish them off for good." Now, if one prays in this way, "O Lord,   
   Mr. So-and-so is my sworn enemy, so please let him go to hell," the   
   Lord will have to act intelligently, because that man's enemy will   
   also say, "O Lord, let my enemy go to hell." So the Lord will be in   
   a fix. Whom should He protect, whom should He please? He has to   
   handle both sides. So if anyone says to God, "Please crush my enemy   
   so that the thorns will be removed from my path", God will act as He   
   thinks fit.   
      
   It is certain that the so-called devotees of this category will   
   never attain God because it is not Him they really want. And when   
   they do not actually want Him, they cannot hope to attain Him."   
   (DISCOURSES ON KRS'N'A AND THE GIITA', "YE YATHA' MA'M'   
   PRAPADYANTE", A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 4, 8 November 1978 morning,   
   Calcutta)   
      
   In fact, what is really going on in such cases.  It is simply the   
   running around of an unstable and depraved mind.   
      
   "The evil mind, the depraved mind, that moves in all the ten   
   directions, that entire evil force, the depraving force that moves   
   in all the ten directions is goading the mind towards hell."   
   (INTERPRETATION OF RA'MA AND NA'RA'YAN'A, A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part   
   2, 25 September 1978, Patna)   
      
   Such people create an internal hell for themselves and an external   
   hell by their exploitation of others.  They will try to call the   
   name of God in their favour.  Money may also be involved.  But what   
   is this really?   
      
   "There is an unhealthy collusion between capitalists and those who   
   trade in religion to try to prevent human beings from forcefully   
   asserting their rights. They try to persuade people that   
   exploitation, the sucking of blood, by capitalists, is not an   
   outrage but a law of nature; that it is useless to try to bring   
   about social welfare by establishing human rights. They say the   
   exploited people should forget about the world and support those who   
   trade in religion in order to enjoy unlimited happiness in an   
   imaginary heaven." (HUMAN SOCIETY PART 1, VARIOUS OCCUPATIONS)   
      
   "If those who go around looking for opportunities to enlarge their   
   stomachs by sucking the vital force of others continue to control   
   society or the nation through their own group of sinners, what can   
   one expect to see in such a society except a horrid picture of hell!   
      
   Opportunistic astrologers or priests have in the past declared that   
   the world would soon come to an end following the conjunction of   
   several planets in a particular house of the zodiac. Perhaps they   
   thought that the public would be frightened by such a declaration,   
   and just prior to the cataclysm might renounce everything and donate   
   a large part of their wealth to the priests in an effort to ensure   
   that they would go to heaven." (HUMAN SOCIETY PART 2, THE VAESHYA   
   AGE)   
      
   This is the nonsense of religion.  It has nothing to do with   
   spirituality.  A particularly nasty form is when money is demanded   
   and by:   
      
   "Priests who may say they have the capacity to arrange heaven for   
   all sinners, all degraded persons, all degraded souls." (SHRA'DDHA,   
   A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 3, 18 October 1978, Patna)   
      
   One needs a true spiritual perspective to move away from such   
   dogmas.  That requires an understanding of what is spiritual   
   salvation.   
      
   "What is salvation? People use words like salvation and liberation   
   very casually. But what does it all mean? There are various kinds of   
   bondages on each level of human society linguistic, social, economic   
   etc. Spiritual liberation (mukti) means the state of liberation from   
      
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