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   SPIRITUALITY IS REFUGE IN GOD to All   
   SPIRITUALITY IS REFUGE IN GOD elsN (1/2)   
   08 Sep 04 22:58:20   
   
   From: muO@YkX0.com   
      
   SPIRITUALITY IS REFUGE IN GOD, NOT THE QUEST FOR HEAVEN AND ITS   
   COUNTERPART THE CONDEMNATION TO HELL   
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   "Even very intelligent people can have extremely bad habits of   
   hurting people. As you can well imagine, this bad habit makes life   
   unbearable for one's neighbours.  So what happens when the call of   
   death comes?  Will such persons be denied the pleasure of eating   
   sweet and savoury polau for eternity in heaven? Will they be   
   prevented from having friendly conversations with the angels?"   
   (BLACK WILL TAKE NO OTHER HUE, Sarkar's Short Stories Part 1)   
      
   "The inculcation of self-aggrandisement leads one to the worst hell.   
   The various hells really just denote the mental and physical states   
   of human beings. A person whose mind has been converted into matter   
   like that of a stone is really not worthy to be called a human   
   being, because he or she has lost the mental qualities of a human   
   being. A person of this type is said to be living in hell."   
   (A'NANDA VACANA'MRTAM PART 23, SAFEGUARDS AGAINST THE DEFECTS OF   
   JINANA AND KARMA)   
      
   In actuality "There is no heaven and no hell".  "There exists no   
   such thing as heaven or hell. When a person does a virtuous act or   
   enjoys the fruits thereof, the environment around him or her is then   
   called heaven; and when he or she does an evil act and endures the   
   consequences thereof, then the environment around that person   
   becomes a hell for him or her."   
   (Ananda Sútram 2:20, 1962)   
      
   "If there is a happy adjustment and balanced blending between   
   carbonic (physical) and non-carbonic (psychic and psycho-spiritual)   
   pabula in the human mind and corpor, heaven will descend on the   
   dusty earth."   
   (THE NEO-ETHICS OF MULTI-LATERAL SALVATION, Few Problems Solved Part   
   8, 26 March 1987, Calcutta)   
      
   Good is that which elevates the mind and evil is that which degrades   
   the mind.   
      
   "Social virtue and vice are temporal entities. These things have   
   nothing to do so far as a person's relationship with the Supreme   
   Father is concerned.   
      
   Suppose several boys are moving along a particular road and one   
   particular boy falls into the drain. His dress, his body, become   
   dirty; other people, passers-by, will laugh at him, but when the   
   boy's father sees his boy in that condition, what is he to do? Will   
   he laugh at his own son? No, no, no. What will he do? He himself   
   will go there, into the drain, and take his boy in his own lap, and   
   clean his dress, clean his clothes, clean his body; and after that   
   he will say, "My boy, you should walk carefully".   
      
   Sinning persons are just like those boys in the drain. Now, high or   
   low, upgraded or degraded, all are equal, all are equal for Him,   
   because heaven is His creation, and hell is His creation. If we say   
   that He is only in heaven, it will not be a correct utterance,   
   because He is in hell also. His sons, His daughters, are never   
   alone. He is with you even in hell.   
      
   What are you to do? You are always to remember that you are the   
   child of a Great Father. You must not think that you are a sinner,   
   that you are a degraded person. If you think that you are a sinner,   
   it means you are meditating on sin! And when sin has become your   
   object of meditation, actually you will become a sinner, because a   
   person becomes just like his or her object of ideation, object of   
   meditation. If you always meditate on sin, "I am a sinner, I am a   
   sinner", actually you will become a sinner. The psychological   
   approach is, you should forget it - even if you are actually a   
   sinner, you should think, "I am the son of a Great Father, I am the   
   son of a Great Father, I am the son of a Great Father". And thus you   
   are meditating on the Great Father, and a day is sure to come when   
   you will become one with your Great Father. But to think, "I am a   
   sinner, I am a sinner, oh Father, save me, oh Father, save me", is a   
   defective approach! You should say, "I am your son, I am your   
   daughter, oh Father, take me on your lap, I am your son, I am your   
   daughter". This will be the approach. You should forget what you do   
   not want."   
   (STAGES OF SAMA'DHI, DISCOURSES ON TANTRA - VOLUME 1, 22 April 1969,   
   Manila)   
      
   "The brilliance of the Divine presence outshines even the dazzling   
   brilliance of the jewels of heaven's treasury.  God's unequalled   
   love surpasses all things and in His loving shelter not only humans,   
   but also animals and plants, feel absolutely secure. You certainly   
   know this."   
   (The Pervasive Influence of Shiva, Namah Shiva'ya Sha'nta'ya, 9 May   
   1982, Calcutta)   
      
   The spiritualist sees things like this in their totality.  They take   
   refuge in the Lord.   
      
   '"Take refuge in Me alone". Why this advice? The reason is simple.   
   It is not possible to put one foot in one boat and the other foot in   
   another boat and to sail in that way. If you try to do that, you   
   will end up in the water, and perish. Worship the non-dual Supreme   
   Consciousness with a single name. "Just as you move towards the   
   shelter of the Supreme Consciousness, I say from My side: I will   
   save you from all sin, have no fear about that. (Bhagavad Giita')   
   Be you a sinner, lowly, fallen, a filthy mole, or even a worm from   
   hell -- whatever you may be -- I assure you that I will always be   
   with you. From your side you do your duty -- take shelter in Me --   
   and from My side I assure you of your liberation."'   
   (SVADHARMA AND PARADHARMA, DISCOURSES ON KRS'N'A AND THE GIITA' - 3,   
   A'nanda Vacana'mrtam Part 27, 23 January 1971 morning, Patna)   
      
   "If an Entity does not provide inspiration for anyone, can its   
   existence be justified? Let such a god reside in heaven; He is of no   
   value to human beings."   
   (DISCOURSE 9 - PA'RTHASA'RATHI KRS'N'A AND SA'M'KHYA PHILOSOPHY - 2,   
   NAMA'MI KRS'N'ASUNDARAM, 19 October 1980, Calcutta)   
      
   This simple but deep view also explains the difference between   
   religion and spirituality.  Religion relies on god being in some   
   mythical heaven, but spirituality realises that God is the All-   
   pervading Cosmic Entity.   
      
   "The omniscient God, is the Lord of both heaven and hell. He is the   
   Father of both developed spiritual aspirants and of great sinners.   
   There is, therefore, no question of His hating the sinners and   
   loving the good spiritual aspirants. All are one to Him. He cannot   
   ostracize the former and embrace the latter. There is no place   
   outside Him where He can throw off the sinners. He cannot disown   
   them either, for in that case He would not remain the Saviour of the   
   Degraded.   
   (MYSTICISM AND SPIRITUALITY, A'NANDA VACANA'MRTAM PART 23)   
      
   "What is sectism or religion? Some people encourage us to worship   
   idols, others encourage us to have a dip in the Ganges. All these   
   things are created within the mind and are destroyed there.   
   Happiness and heaven, afflictions and hell - all are mental   
      
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