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|    STORIES AND MYTHS OF HEAVEN AND HEL to All    |
|    STORIES AND MYTHS OF HEAVEN AND HELL ===    |
|    11 Sep 04 08:23:11    |
      [continued from previous message]              the waves of gold or silver and finally into crude gold or silver       itself as a result of inanimate absorption. Later on it is reborn as       a gold or silver, and spends its days confined within the safe of a       money-minded merchant! This undesirable situation is called life in       hell.              This type of degradation is not possible for creatures other than       human beings, because they cannot perform original actions       independently. With the development of intellect, and with the       expansion of freedom in the field of action, human beings can either       elevate themselves or degrade themselves. Prior to the attainment of       this freedom they moved along the path of development in the flow of       positive evolution. On acquiring this freedom, however, they have to       make a tremendous effort to progress, or else they will certainly       regress. Those people who move towards heaven or hell are not the       controller of either. But the Macrocosm is the controller of both       because the movement from hell to heaven is nothing but the direct       result of the application of His divine energy." (MACROCOSM AND       MICROCOSM -- 1, Paos'ii Pu'rn'ima' 1959, Darbhaga, Bihar,       Subha's'ita Sam'graha Part 7)              "The Supreme Consciousness - God - is unbiased. He is equal to       everyone because He sees everyone in the same way. He sees an ant in       the same way He sees a small mosquito. He understands an ant in the       same way that He understands a mosquito. He doesn't make any undue       fuss over a giant serpent (python or "elephant of the jungle")       because of its great size. He sees a python or "elephant of the       jungle" in the same way that He sees an ant or a mosquito, and they       also see Him in that same way. Nor does He make any special fuss       over this universe, the three worlds of heaven, earth and hell,       because of their vastness, and they look at Him in this same way. In       other words, everyone is equal to God -- a mosquito, an ant, a       python, a mammoth, even the three worlds. He remains with everyone       equally through His intimate / individual association and also       pervasive / collective association. He is impartial under all       conditions."       (SHABDA CAYANIKÁ PART 2, DISCOURSE 9, UI TO ULUKA, Ui, 10 November       1985, Calcutta)              To conclude, one can see the irrationality of heaven and hell in the       extract from the story below:              A certain Mr. Chamru Sao, another rich merchant, was organising a       memorial ceremony for his deceased father. One day he happened to       meet a famous Kashmiri pundit whom, it was rumoured, could find a       place in heaven for even the worst sinner. Chamru Sao was quick to       seize his opportunity. "Punditji," he said, "my illustrious father       violated the moral code of conduct once or twice to make a little       more money - times were hard, you know. I was wondering if you have       any places left in heaven where he can remain in eternal peace. It       would be very unfortunate if he was denied entry to heaven. I'd be       put in a very embarrassing position if he returned to earth and       checked the business accounts."              "That service costs fifty asrafis (1)," said the pundit.              "That seems to be a little excessive," said Chamru Sao. "Won't forty       asrafis be enough, punditji?"              "With forty asrafis," replied the pundit, "I can construct a palace       for your father in heaven using a few mantras, but I can't provide       any servants. He'll have to cook, wash the dishes, clean the beds       and do all the other household chores himself. Won't that be too       difficult for a frail old man?"              "Well punditji," continued Chamru Sao after a pause, "what will I       get for thirty asrafis?"              "For thirty asrafis I can get your father into heaven but I can't       promise a palace," relied the pundit.              "And if I only give you twenty asrafis?" asked Chamru Sao.              "Well, I'll probably be able to get him through the gates, but he'll       have to travel to the centre of heaven by his own means."              "And for ten asrafis?" persisted Chamru Sao. "Your father will have       to wait outside the gates just like King Trishanku. (2)"              "Fifty rupees ?" asked Chamru Sao              "Fifty rupees!" exclaimed the pundit. "It's hardly worth       contemplating."              Khya't'anda's had overheard the entire conversation and felt duty-       bound to free Chamru Sao from the evil influence of the       pundit. "Chamru Sao you don't need to pay for the services of a       pundit while I'm here. I'll get your father into heaven without       asking for a single rupee. I'll perform your father's memorial       ceremony and prove that it can be done. Be sure to invite the most       distinguished guests, though."              The memorial ceremony was well under way. Chamru Sao was in a jolly       mood because his father was going to heaven and would never ask to       see the business accounts again. "The auspicious moment has       arrived," declared Khya't'anda's. "It's time for your father to go       to heaven. Let me see what the conditions are like in heaven at the       present time... My goodness, the place is an arid desert, there's       not a tree in sight. Your father will die in the heat. Moreover       there's nothing to eat. I can't see a single chocolate tree or cake       tree. If he doesn't die of heat-stroke, starvation will certainly       finish him off. Chamru Sao, are your accounts ready for inspection?"              "Isn't there any other option?" asked Chamru Sao nervously.              "There's always another option," said Khya't'anda's       optimistically. "It shouldn't be difficult to find. Let me see...       Ah, there's a desert of chickpea sweets about twelve miles north of       the place where your father is waiting. If your father crosses the       desert - but it won't be easy - he'll reach a mountain range of milk       sweets as high as the snow-capped Himalayas. If he man ages to cross       the treacherous mountain pass he'll see a vast ocean of milk to the       west and another monotonous desert of chick pea sweets to the east.       There's another snow-capped mountain range of milk-sweets beyond the       desert and a cream lake beyond that. Would you like your father to       travel east or west? It's up to you. But remember, being so old and       frail he won't be able to walk that far. The only other way to       travel around heaven is by chartered rocket. A single ticket costs       fifty asrafis. I think it's your only option."              Chamru Sao could hardly refuse to pay for his father's comfort in       front of so many distinguished ladies and gentlemen. He handed over       fifty asrafis to Khya't'anda's. "Will your father be able to climb       into and out of the rocket himself, or should we send a young man       along to assist him ?" asked Khya't'anda's.              "Yes, we should definitely send along an assistant," agreed Chamru       Sao.              "So, we'll need another fifty asrafis for his ticket," said       Khya't'anda's. Chamru Sao gave him another fifty asrafis.              "Well, we can't send a ghost to heaven, can we? We'll have to send       someone from earth who will have to return after his mission is       over. That'll be an extra fifty asrafis for his tick et." Chamru Sao       was obliged to hand over another fifty asrafis.              1. The asrafi is a gold coin that was legal tender in India in the       nineteenth century. 2. See The Plight of King Trishanku.              THE DESIRES OF KHYA'T'ANDA'S, Sarkar's Short Stories Part 1              from works of Shrii Shrii Anandamurti                            CXK2PhlDdxYV6tww9o6rR7xINtGonquW0UXJsPMMP0DxJOvT6Srb8HlxDrokDrzt3sd              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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